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Topic: some KUNG-FU TRICKS i learned today!
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Gazorra
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posted 03-24-2000 07:18 PM
i watched a video about Jackie Chan today and he explained some tricks they use in fight scenes:
the parts of the actors that hit each other, for instance a foot and a shoulder when a guy kicks at someone's shoulder, have some flour or otherwise fire dust put on them (depending on the color of the clothes i guess; white clothes-flour black clothes-fire dust) and when they hit each other, the dust flies into the air. looks good!
the other was that when an actor does a roundhouse kick, they show the impact of the foot which is really an arm with trousers and a shoe on, so the guy who's arm it is can really aim much better which is much safer when the roundhouse kick is aimed towards the face.
thats all, just thought it might be interesting to some. please add tricks to this post if you know some!
(i allways love visual tricks.)[This message has been edited by Gazorra (edited 03-24-2000).] |
Gazorra
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posted 03-26-2000 05:23 PM
does nobody care about these effects?i feel so alone! i wish there was some kind of book about these things. like, "all i learned about moviemaking i learned from Drunken Master" or something. sigh! |
NJRFilms
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posted 03-26-2000 05:32 PM
Those are two good ideas, Ill have to use them. |
iggy35
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posted 03-26-2000 06:19 PM
I like the foot idea.
I'm also collecting idea's and cheapo effects for film making. Collecting from here a lot and also from other effects sites.
I dont know if anyone else knows one, but as far as I know there is no really good effects webpage for amatuars/experts.
You find an effects page and its all about latex mask making and **** that costs too much for an amatuar to even consider using!!!
So, when I collect enough cool ideas I shall put them all on to a webpage..with photo's!!
So, if anyone has some idea's they've collected..Please email em to me!
Even with pics if you have them..jpg only though!
Doesnt matter what kind of special effect it is.
Thanks
IGGYfoureyes@cableinet.co.uk
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jabinya
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posted 03-27-2000 07:08 AM
I've heard of the flour being used but what is fire dust and where do you get it?
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Gazorra
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posted 03-27-2000 06:23 PM
the best thing to do is collect them in a book or something, like i do, and you get them from movies like chinese genre movies or really old stuff like Lumiere, or buster keaton or something. and these lead to new ideas.
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jabinya
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posted 03-28-2000 01:50 AM
I try to watch as much eastern kung fu cinema as possible. They very rich storylines (mostly) and incredibly fluid fight scenes with extreme camera angle views.Gazorra, have you seen any of Tsui Hark's Films? He did Once upon a time in China 3, 4, and 5, Supercop, Knock Off, and Double Team. |
buffy
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posted 03-28-2000 04:29 AM
I saw "A Chinese Ghost Story" yesterday, by Tsui Hark (pronounced Choy Hok) and it kicked buttocks blue in terms of fighting and spfx (except perhaps for the stop motion effects) for being made in 87. There is a major wire stunting going on there aswell as trampoline action and generally athletic actors. See it to get ideas. I mean, the fighting in the Matrix is SO LAME in comparison.
Another thing I noticed: if they wanted something to look like moving real fast, they shrunk the image vertically so that vertical lines kind of twisted and turned strangely. |
ebrigman
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posted 03-28-2000 09:09 AM
If you can get a copy of the book "Movies as Artifacts" by Marsden, Nachbar, and Grogg there is an article called Kung FU film as Ghetto Myth... compares fight scenes to musical numbers |
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posted 03-28-2000 10:09 AM
"fire dust"? You mean ash?F www.owthemovie.cjb.net |
Gazorra
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posted 03-30-2000 01:35 PM
oh yes, Thui Hark has his moments. I saw "Double Team" and thought it was the worst thing in the whole movieyear. Then i saw "Knock Off" and i was amazed. I guess he had to get used to the change in the industry.I just saw "God of Gamblers 2" (the rerurn) and i was blown away. It is The Best chinese movie i have ever seen. and i've seen some. Man, its good. go see it.
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Ghent_ep
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posted 03-30-2000 10:37 PM
Bride with White Hair! Bride with White Hair! Bride with White Hair! (Repeat 9999 times) Friggin every frame from that film is a work of art, pause any friggin frame and you have an absolute masterpiece.... gahhh... just thinking about it... *Runs and grabs his copy to go watch it again*------------------
Ghent
Endor Productions, Inc. |
Ghent_ep
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posted 03-30-2000 10:49 PM
Oh and for anyone unfamiliar with the Hong Kong seen. One word, "Tai Seng", video marketting group that puts out some of the most fantastic releases you can grab. Also for those of you who kind of cringe at wire work, you have to understand it's an art, and in the industry it's nick named "Wire Fu", you literally have to study a traditional kung fu style (Jow Gar, Hung Gar, Choy Gar, Mantis, etc.) to really give it respect, because it's hard as hell to do even the simplest movements when your hooked up on those wire rigs, let alone execute repeated fighting sequences involving you throwing your body around. Some students including myself from my Jow Gar school will be putting together a demo reel on some fight sequences and stunt choreography, I'll definately plug it up here and run you guys through a bit of how we put it together. Unfortunately, it's not much use unless you study kung fu yourself for at least 6 months, there's no way to fake true Hong Kong style fight sequences, because unlike American martial arts films, often times there is real combat, and real weapons (The broadswords blades you see in the films are dulled, but the ends are so thin they can still cut of your fingers when you swing it at a fast rate), because you simply do not get the same effect by doing camera tricks to make it look like your fighting. I've actually contemplated setting up a team of guys and market ourselves as a kung fu stunt choreography team =) But now that east is meeting west, Hollywood will grab most of it's talent from the best of the best in Hong Kong. But who knows.------------------
Ghent
Endor Productions, Inc. | |
