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Flemchuck
posted 12-15-2000 01:59 PM              
can anyone think of specific suicide reasons? I know the whole wife-left him, guy went broke kinda plots, but i need something really good. anyone?

multimedia light & magic
posted 12-15-2000 06:05 PM              
someone who thinks he's dying, and doesn't want to suffer.

pure loneliness.

just being one really screwed up individual.

life falling apart.

flem, i gotta say, kinda a morbid topic eh?

Red Stranger
posted 12-15-2000 07:59 PM              
"My life sucks. Nobody will ever stop making fun of me. I hope they all ****ing die. I wan't them all to know they made me do this. I want those m************ to be sorry. They just wont stop making fun of me.

signed, ______________"


That's how I remember my middle school years.

------------------
Never doubt the Red Stranger

Bread
posted 12-15-2000 10:10 PM              
Well, there is the obvious revenge scenario. Like hanging himself/herself in front of some guys house.

There is also the guilt trip method. Say, for example, the suicidal person thinks he/she accidentally kills somebody. So, out of total misery, he/she decides to commit suicide.

How bout, they join a cult like heaven's gate or something. "Sure there's a spaceship behind the comet...but just in case, I think you should go first and check...."

Maybe it was a dare. Some friends are getting totally wasted at some party and begin playing truth or dare. One person jokingly tells the person to kill him/her self not thinking it would actually be done. Unfortunately, it IS done.

That's all I got really.

My Two Bits,

Bread

E. Flask
posted 12-16-2000 01:10 AM              
When you get right down to it, anything is a good reason to kill yourself, depending on your state of mind.

How about feelings of guilt being the reason? Someone tearing themselves apart with remorse over something they did. There's also the prospect of a long, fatal illness, like AIDS or cancer. You could even inject an element of the horrific/fantastic, and make the person do it because they carry a curse or a parasitic monster inside them (ala Aliens 3).

I think most suicides do it not because they want to die, but because they see it as the only way to make their misery, real or imagined, stop.

"We don't feel emotions; we do emotions."-- Anthony Robins.

SeerSavant
posted 12-17-2000 01:56 AM              
A lot of my friends were pretty heavy into the party scene, remember, this was before AIDS or any semblance of common sense to us. What we found out the hard way, (I did a lot of speed, but a few that I knew went into heroin and crack, which was brand new back then.) was that these things burn out certain parts of the brain, not necessarily brain cells per se, but more like the connections between them. So that you loose much of the use of what areas the drugs are replacing. Nowadays, due to speed, My heart isn't in the greatest of shape (Mild arithmia, nothing actually serious though) and it seems that fatigue is really quick on me. I can still work my rear off, but soon's I stop, man, I crash. I need sleep, lot's of it at times. Drugs do tear up the brain, memory loss, but the worst is the hardest to describe.
In one of my friends descriptions, he said it was like the part of his mind that gave him hope was just, gone. After nearly a decade hooked on heroin, he broke free and found no sense of "well being" in himself. It's like all the great feelings that the heroin amplified were simply used up. I used speed and stayed awake for long stretches and worked, partied, and fought hard in every sense, now I haven't got the stamina to do the same. I still can, but it's a pretty big strain, and I find myself sleeping ten to twelve hour stretches, then falling back asleep within a few hours. It's an effort to get up, but I do. At the same time, My life is pretty normal, I jack up the sound on the alarm clock and actually put it far enough away so that I have to get up to turn it off. I used to wake at the slightest noise.

Anyway, Why not persue that sort of avenue, where it's not anything outside or enviromental, but simple honest burnout. Call it drugs, or in a myriad small ways, life can do that to you, when you deal for a long time with a friend who is dying slowly from cancer or AIDS, or perhaps settled into a routine of work eat home that drains all the joy out of life.
It's the little things that make us want to kill ourselves when were depressed. Telemarketers, catching yourself watching infomercials at two and three in the morning, or simply being alone on christmas morning.
The big things get the attention only because we can point to them and go "See! That's why!". But it's the little things that send us to hell in the first place.

I would emphasis the small details in life that kill us slowly until life is no longer worth living. No cheap moralizing, No uplifting message, just honest and brutal truth. Sometimes life really blows. The question is, are you strong enough to survive it? With drugs as a backstory, you know as a fact, that you will never again feel as good as you did while using. Why do you think so many go back to it, even when they know it will kill them?

Anyway, hope this helped you some...

Tn
posted 12-17-2000 05:09 PM              
One bad event followed by another, with the eventual loss of all hope caused by drugs or something, and then one final blow that breaks the camel's back. The events could be all of the things people have mentioned. I don't think taking just one event that causes suicide would be substantial enough.

Nayman
posted 12-17-2000 08:48 PM              
Constant hauntings

Constant alien abductions


visions of the apocolypse

something spooky

Pyromaniac
posted 12-19-2000 06:39 PM              
You know. If his wife left him, he could try to get her back threatening to jump outside his six story flat or whatever with his wife below, and the guy she's seeing could be the negotiatior or whatever who tries to talk people down. You could get a lot of tense dialogue out of that.

Psycho 78
posted 12-20-2000 12:08 AM              
While I don't condone suicide, I've often become deeply depressed when I realize the fact that everything I will ever own will someday end up in a land fill.

P$YC0 7%

Flemchuck
posted 12-20-2000 12:38 AM              
well, i need suicide ideas cuz for a story i've got this group of suicidal individuals. i like the disease one, with the "i don't want to suffer anymore" kinda thing. seer, i get what you're sayin and all, but i don't have room in my story for reall hardcore built up depression. I need swiflty-explanable believable reasons of depression or whatever. i do like the revenge, thing, too. i like that a lot.

oh yeah, each suicide member will get they're dying wish, so like the suicidal person will get to be hung outside his wife's window or soemthing.

yeah... this could be a cool story. if only I HAD A SUBPLOT!!!! GODAMMIT!!!!!

but that's another story all together...

Pyromaniac
posted 12-20-2000 01:25 AM              
One of the suicidal characters could be in construction and in an accident have his manhood severed and after returning to work, he contemplates his reasons for living, since he can't think of any, he puts a nail gun in his mouth.

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Pyromaniac
posted 12-20-2000 01:36 AM              
A really fat, crack-showin' plumber one day gets fed up, announces he will no longer take this **** and suffocates himself with the plunger.

Brien
posted 12-20-2000 04:03 PM              
Maybe there is a writer who cannot come up with a plot point and throws himself on a mechanical pencil, only to think of the idea as his life spills onto the floor.

Just a thought

HBK
posted 12-20-2000 08:04 PM              
Stock Market Crash
Your wife/husband moves into an alternate life-style.......yikes
Rejection
.....etc

Tn
posted 12-21-2000 04:21 AM              
Following Pyro's idea - A man has some construction accident where he loses use of his family jewels. He finds out his wife is having an affair and becomes hooked on painkillers. Although the affair has nothing to do with the man's accident, he believes so, and adding the painkiller addiction he can't take it any more, thus committing suicide.

Another guy could be a musician that loves sounds. For some reason he becomes deaf, after a while his musical skills go down the hill, since he can't hear himself. Then, well, you know.

Pyromaniac
posted 12-21-2000 03:51 PM              
To go along with Brien -the writer could be one of those fellows who write with the calligraphy pens, like the ones you dip in ink, in multiple shots he writes, grows frustrated, wads up the piece of paper and chunks it. Finally he rights a terrific suicide note and taking his life, his blood flows out of his head like ink.

Pyromaniac
posted 12-21-2000 10:18 PM              
A paramedic could be trying to save someone they really care about and is using those pad
things that shock, and then when that person flatlines, they could be like "no" and put them to their own head or something.
Also one to borrow from real life or so I've been told is the one about the midget who hung himself in the background of the forest
in The Wizard Of Oz, because he wanted to ruin the picture because he knew there would be only one take, and the extras were not getting payed their union minimum, so you can use this example in a general sabotage way.

Pyromaniac
posted 12-29-2000 01:56 AM              
A dude can't support his family, he commits suicide and makes it look like an accident like drinking and driving so his family can collect the insurance money.

bobka4
posted 12-31-2000 03:52 AM              
The one about the Wizard of Oz isn't true. But you could use the "suicide for sabatoge" idea.

SAFilms
posted 01-03-2001 02:42 AM              
while my other script is being revised, I started on this one. I wrote the first 17 pages today. I love writing this story! anyhow, I need a really cool way an old convict, tired of running will die. Like revenge, a childhood dream of going up in a hot air balloon, etc.

the story takes place in a made up world, like City of Lost Children, except not as green.

[This message has been edited by SAFilms (edited 01-03-2001).]

BrucefreakingLee
posted 01-04-2001 03:34 PM              
If you have a bible, read Ecclesiastes.

Aside from the last few verses, most of the book is a reason to kill yourself.

Ecclesiastes 1:11
"there is no rememberence of men of old, and even those who are yet to come will not be remembered by those who follow."

Ecclesiastes 12:8
"Meaningless! Meaningless! Everything is meaningless"

that may help

tons of ideas in the bible,

"its the pranksters bible" --Homer Simpson

SAFilms
posted 01-04-2001 09:18 PM              
is writing 52 pages in two days a good start? what's a good number i should shoot for? (and don't give me any of that "do what makes ya happy" crap, i'm talking about productiveness.)

eh?

BrucefreakingLee
posted 01-05-2001 12:44 PM              
1 page = 1 minute on screen if its a script.
so if its going to be a feature, about 90 pages.

SAFilms
posted 01-05-2001 12:53 PM              
you missed my point, there, bruce, but i'll take what people give me.

BrucefreakingLee
posted 01-09-2001 04:57 AM              
Sorry,

52 pages in 2 days is alot

[This message has been edited by BrucefreakingLee (edited 01-09-2001).]

BrucefreakingLee
posted 01-09-2001 04:58 AM              
how's it coming

[This message has been edited by BrucefreakingLee (edited 01-09-2001).]

SeerSavant
posted 01-12-2001 06:23 PM              
52 pages in two days?

Oh, man, I struggle to get five to ten a day. And that's when I don't have work or other stuff in the way. (Still, with rewrites editing and polish, each page I figure to take at least 8 to 10 hours total, to get it right.)

As always, if it comes out easy and too quickly, set it aside when your done and re read it a few weeks later with a fresh mind, then do you editing. That way, you end up more objective.

But don't fret, sometimes true inspiration can hit like lightning and you nail it in one sweaty, long night of obsession.

It's rare, but I had a story dump out of my head one night, and afterwards you feel as if you've run a fifty kilometer marathon in scuba gear.

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