BUILDING DINOSAURS!!!
BUILDING DINOSAURS!!!- special effects and filmmaking
HELLO! STUPID CAPSLOCK!
There we go. well, i have got one tough project, and was hoping you guys could help my out. I am making a dinosaur movie, loosely based on the book dinotopia (i dunno if you guys have seen it, but it is a picture book about a castaway family who finds an island of dinos, and the father recodrs it all in a scethbook ,then his son finds the book, and thern the stroy is told, its a great book ,try and find it)
Anyhoo, I need to malke a full, to half scale puppet of a Protoceratops, a Raptor, And possibly hadrosaur or other duckbilled dino. I know its a tall order, but i jsut came into quite a bit of money, and have been wanting to do this for a while.... so?
I don`t know how to do that, i don`t know how much money you have, i donīt know if everyone can do this, but i think it would be easier with CGI.
Just my opinion so.
Oh,some is going to be dinosaurs that i am gonna either buy, oir make in 3dsmax, but frankly, not all of it can be CG. i just need head puppets and maybe arms and upperbody, for interactive shots with people
are you talking animatronics?
Nope, hoping not animatronic, more along the lines of cable controleld
animatronics and cable controlled are hand in hand....but as far as the full size thingy...does it have to move, does it have to lay there like the triceratops (sp?) in jurassic park?
email me and i'll see what i can think up...i like puppets 
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With creatures of this size, you have a number of options:
You can create costumes for technicians to act within, particularly for gross movements.
You can mechanize expressions and subtle movements. This can be accomplished with air bladders, cable controls, hydraulics, or servo motors. Using servo motors that are radio controlled or computer controlled takes you into the realm of animatronics - you may not have the time, skills, or money (this can get REALLY expensive if you're talking about a lot of computer controlled servo movements) to do this, but you can mechanize these puppets or costumes to some degree.
If you really do have a sizeable budget, you would get the best results hiring someone to do this unless you are quite handy with mechanics of this type, and sculpting, molding, skin fabrication, and making underskulls. Factor in the cost of materials added to the price of a skilled artist's labor and the bill can get pretty steep, depending on how good this has to look.
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Jeff F - Moderator
Magic and FX
Amazing the Masses
Okay, lets say on a scale of 1-10, them amount of movement i need is like 6
I need from the shouldars up for a raptor, and the frontal portion of a protoceratops (around the size of a pig) most puppets can be limited in movement, but the face nbeeds to be articulated
Building a full size dinosaur shouldnt be too dificult if its only small like a raptor or a protoceratops. i made a "skeleton" of a raptor out of 20mm PVC water pipe with appropriate connectors. I used a scale model to get the dimensions right. Eventually i hope to "flesh it out using foam etc.
Dale Jenner
Just a suggestion:
In the serie "Walking with Dinosarus" they used CGI for full size dinosaurs and for closeups they used hand puppets or animatronic puppets of the dino's heads. Puppets were only of heads.
spider
pparkerss@bol.com.br
the egg laying rig was also a "puppet"
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What everyone seems to forget is that once we look past race, religion, gender, and all that, everyone on this planet is first and foremost...
...a PERSON
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