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FilmWeapon
posted 12-04-2000 07:45 PM              
Me and my brother found a pretty cool, cheap little method. Get your object (whatever you want to float), and tie a piece of white floss to it. Here are different methods on how to hang it:

  • Microphone Stand
  • Tacs/Ceiling
  • Another Person

    Microphone Stand - Simply lift the stand as high as possible, then extend the top part outward about 1 or 2 feet. Then, just tie the floss to the rod hanging overhead!

    Tacs/Ceiling - Get 2 tacs, and just tac the floss up to the ceiling! This takes much more floss, however.

    Another Person - Just get another person to hold the wires while standing on a chair, stool, or other material, and make sure the other person is out of view.

    Oh, and there are some very important things to remember when doing this.

    Shadows: Make sure the shadow/shadows of your equipment or actor are not cast behind the object that is floating. This makes the floss very visible.

    Crew or Equipment: Take great precaution that the crew or equipment isn't visible in the scene.

    Actor Eyes: Tell the actor not to look at the floss, crew, or equipment. Look at the object!

    White Background: There must be a white background for the floss to disappear.

    Low Light: It makes it lots easier with low light!

    Well, I guess I'll stop rambling on and on now! I hope this helps somebody! Tell me if this helps you, I like to help!

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    FilmWEAPON
    http://focusproductions.cjb.net

    [This message has been edited by FilmWeapon (edited 12-04-2000).]

  • Senor_Spielbergo
    posted 12-05-2000 03:51 AM              
    Also if you want to levitate a person you can do it the way magicians do and use a forklift!! hehe if your not sure how this is done ill explain it if ya want.

    multimedia light & magic
    posted 12-05-2000 03:10 PM              
    hmmm....only works if you have a boom mic stand though. good tips filmy!

    [This message has been edited by multimedia light & magic (edited 12-05-2000).]

    Jeff F
    posted 12-05-2000 04:54 PM              
    This is essentially the same approach as using trickline - a catch-all stage term for thin monofilament, thread, fishing line, or wire.

    While dark colors (especially black) tend to be less visible (particularly against busy backgrounds), other colors will work. The advantages of dark trickline is that shadows actually help disguise it as opposed to give it away, and it blends in with many dark colors. A thin line of any hue against an identically colored background is going to be hard to see when lit properly, but flat black becomes close to invisible against far more surfaces.

    Light reflection is the enemy of trickline - any color with a shiny finish is a problem. Since transparent line (like fishline) has no color and theoretically matches any background, one would be tempted to assume it is the ultimate, but in practice clear threads and lines are synthetic materials which tend to be shiny. With light reflecton color becomes irrelevant.

    Try to keep any source of light away from casting light onto your lines from behind - thisincreases their visibility as the linephysically blocks some of the light. The brighter the lights, the more careful you have to be, so film with it's light requirements poses a bit of a challenge, but video with its lower contrast and higher light requirements is even harder to work with. As a magician when I work in brightly lit venues, I use other methods aside from thread for performing levitation effects.

    If you have to suspend an object against a white background, your approach is the way to go, but darker backgrounds are going to make hiding trickline easier whenever it is possible to use them.

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    All the magicians I know that were professionals or knowledgeable hobbyists laughed themselves onto the floor at the masked magician's clunky "explanations", especially the levitiation - hilarious.

    While there are many methods for performing any trick, I've never met a magician who actually resorted to using a forklift - it's the last thing I'd do.

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