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Topic: Matt painting
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SilverbladeX
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posted 12-06-2000 06:49 PM
Ok, i've never really used a matt painting b4 so couls omeone tell me how to? |
crazy lou
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posted 12-06-2000 08:26 PM
basically its just blocking off part of the shot, and adding in a new section...many ways to do it. easiest way may be to do it in *sigh* the computer. other methods, in camera- block off part of the shot so the film isnt exposed, shot the other stuff add the matte later...glass shot...paint on glass, position it in front of camera (make sure the clear part is clean and clear, film through it. you paint on the rear of the glass (side away from camera usually)in the computer you could do it pretty easily, in something like premiere just make a photoshop file with the section where your action will be transparent, then overlay it, might take some adjusting to get right, but it should be pretty fast and simple
later
TOm
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Mr. Sable
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posted 12-07-2000 10:00 PM
They way I do it (like the old timers) is to actually PAINT on a big-ass piece of glass and mount that big-ass glass painting between my camera and actors, so what ever is in the painting appears in the shot, in-camera with no editing, optical printing, or computer manipulation.Some people even tape photos or magazine pictures (with black construction paper glue-sticked to the back) to the glass. BTW- you paint on the front of the glass so you have fewer reflections to contend with. ------------------
Primitive Pictures Indie Film North [This message has been edited by Mr. Sable (edited 12-07-2000).] |
potmonkey
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posted 12-10-2000 11:24 AM
How do you get the focus right between the glas and the actors? -- the glass will not be the same distance away as the real background, or actors or anything. |
Mr. Sable
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posted 12-11-2000 01:26 AM
Lotsa light + low aperature = deep focus. Plus the glass is quite large (2' x 3' minumum) and as far from the camera as possible, keeping the edges out of frame.Don't really know for video though. ------------------
Primitive Pictures Indie Film North |
ADOM
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posted 12-13-2000 06:19 AM
Don't forget that if your matte is of something that is supposed to be a distance away from the actors, one of them (either background or characters) should be in soft focus anyway. One of the things that makes some chroma-keys look so flat is that the horizon is as sharp as the character who is miles "closer". That's not how we'd see it all. Check out CHARLIE AND THE FACTORY. When that glass elevetor is flying the rear screen projection of the mountains is in very soft focus, which creates depth.Good Luck. You're attempting an effective, but dying art. ADOM |
Jeff F
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posted 12-14-2000 01:07 AM
Lighting the glass pane(s) properly is critical, avoid reflections or washing out the surface - both will make it look exactly like what it is.Underlighting it will make it murky. We used to shoot a glass shot numerous times with lighting variations to make sure we obtained one good shot. Today I'd do it in the computer, but the older methods still work. ------------------
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