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Topic: Energy blast knocks a rooms contents over!!!
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Vision Productions
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posted 12-13-2000 03:18 AM
Hey everybody! (hey dr nick!)For an upcoming movie I've got visualized in my head there is a scene where a blast of energy shoots threw a room and knocks everything (literally) over. Couches fall over, tables, desks, lamps, pictures-EVERYTHING. How can I do this? Wires? Some of the smaller stuff wont be that hard but couches? |
ADOM
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posted 12-13-2000 05:55 AM
I'm thinking you're gonna need a lot of stage hands for that one. It might help to shoot the room in parts (seperate the four corners and edit it together). This way you only have to worry about one major piece of furniture at a time then pull out to a long shot of the general disarray.The couch can be launched from below frame and pushed backwards. If you have tile or wood floors, wet `em down. The couch won't tip over, but a small push will send it for one heck of a ride! Hope this helps. ADOM |
Vision Productions
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posted 12-13-2000 07:12 PM
I want the shot to sort of pan from one side to the other-a continuous take. Stuff falls in the order it would get hit AKA left to right. I also want to have stuff sort of flying around in CIRCLES (sorta like the floating toys in Poltergeist,) Im trying to limit CG because, frankly, it usually looks stupid. Physical effects rule! |
eggy
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posted 12-13-2000 09:18 PM
CG doesn't look stupid if you do it right, but since it sounds like you're not exactly very good with CGI  , then definately go for the physical effects.As for the shot you want, I'd use wirs where the camera are (lighten up the load of everything as much as possible) and have a whole lot of people off camera pull down everything in sequence of the energy going through the room. I'll give you a more detailed explanation later if you want, but I gotta go! [This message has been edited by eggy (edited 12-13-2000).] |
DigiteyeZ
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posted 12-14-2000 12:47 AM
maybe you have a room available to wreck, but i would make a miniature set. the hardest part would be getting small figures of chairs and a couch, etc. if you could then you would still need a couple of people to help. set the camera on a tripod (or use a steadicam) and practice the shot you want.
then, use fishing line to flip the furniture over and slide it. cut up little pieces of different colored papers (different sizes) and use a Dust-Off air-in-a-can type of thing to blow them and any other debri through the scene.initially this might take a little more work (constructing the model with details and all) but i think it would be easier to film. |
ADOM
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posted 12-15-2000 04:53 AM
You can go to any craft store (my wife drags me all the time) and get great looking minuatures of furniture. Some of it is pretty expensive, but if you buy it unpainted you can save some $$$. You may even find wallpaper that matched the house you are shooting in.ADOM |
Red Stranger
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posted 12-15-2000 03:42 PM
As long as the contents are replacable if they break, tie fishing line to the objects and have them all tied together to a master-line or something. Then pull it and all the stuff will fall as if energy itself pushed them. If you want perfection, keep the camera TOTALLY steady and you can edit the fishing line out with a computer by pulling pixels from a "clean" frame over the fishing line.I hope that I've helped. ------------------
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Film_Scorer
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posted 12-15-2000 08:57 PM
umm...maybe...if you got a large piece of flat wood (maybe plywood), you could paint it as a floor...or tile it...and then build it onto an incline (like put bricks under it), then have 5 or 6 people yank it out from under the furnature. this will make the stuff go...well...flying.------------------
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Tonka2bad
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posted 12-16-2000 02:10 PM
Make the mini, then flip it over on it's back and move the camera with it, that'll really get you a good effect. |
Nayman
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posted 12-16-2000 10:09 PM
Oh the wonders of physical effects. Boy do i love them. Get yourself a nice clear tank of water. Get your miniatures inside and weighted down, not too heavily. THE WATER MUST BE INCREDIBLY CLEAN. put the water through a brita water filter or something. Set up the camera to lok thru ther glass at this little settting, when all is calm, it should jsut look like a miniatujre shot. NO here is the hard part, you gotta fond some kind of pump that wont cause bubbles. This would be a water pump. Pump[ watter at a high speed towards the miniatures. The water ripple underwater will look like sweeping eneregy, and you have chaos with furnature. Film at 100 frams per second, and show at 25 so you get 1/4 speed for size realism. TRY It out and tell me how it goes |
Tek2019
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posted 12-17-2000 12:54 PM
If you're using miniatures why don't you invert the set. If you were to set it on it's side and use magnets to hold all the furniture it might look pretty cool. I'm imagining one of magnetic strips. As you pulled it off the attached furniture would fall off in sequence. |
eggy
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posted 12-18-2000 11:23 AM
I REALLY like Nayman's idea! I think I'm going to try that sometime. If Visual Productions doesn't do that, I will and I'll tell ya how it works. |
Sloan
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posted 12-18-2000 01:09 PM
Why don't you just get a giant fan, a huge fan. A fan so big, it's as big as one of the walls of the room. Then turn it on. If you want to have more fun, get one of your friends to stand in front of it and then turn it on full speed!
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Nayman
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posted 12-18-2000 07:14 PM
Thank you eggy, i hope it works out, never tried it. |
Blu
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posted 12-20-2000 01:23 AM
Well if your making minatures on your own and have no experience . Check out your local library for books on how to make them.
I work at a library and there is a section for constructing dolls and their houses ( and all furniture ) and some of it is pretty realistic .If your going by the dewey system , i think the # are around 745.55 . |
