Well, after i have the dinos.....

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Nayman
posted 12-16-2000 10:03 PM           
Okay, the raptors are modeled, boned (is that nasty to anyone else?), and textured.... I know how to animate and add them to film, here is the tricky part.... How to fight with one.


Picture an actor with shotgun firing at a raptor, the raptor dodges behind a tree jumps up to one branch and thrust itself upon the helpless actor who is fighting it with the gun barrel. HOW CAN I GET HUMANS TO INTERACT WITH CG CONVINCINGLY!


Kinda a like jar jar binks. NO that wasnt realistic, any REALISTIC human would have killed him before he said "meesah racist sterotype"

Dale Jenner
posted 12-17-2000 01:17 AM           
All I can think of is film the life action first and then animate the raptors later, it will be much easier to do it that way.

Dale Jenner

thedude
posted 12-17-2000 01:54 PM           
First of what programs? Do you have premire and photoshop or other programs that do the same thing? What 3D animation package? If you have photoshop get the actor to fight without the raptor (you don't need a blue/green screen) then take it into the 3D animation program. Also are you filming behind the actor or infront of him or behind? If you are filming behind the actor have the live action as the background and then animate the raptor fighting with the gun barrel. So all the CG is on top and it doesn't look like he's fighting with it yet so take the footage with the raptor and the actor and the footage with just the actor into photoshop. Have the footage of the raptor as the top layer and the footage without as the bottom. select the top layer and make it slightly transparent so you can see the bottom no take the eraser tool and erase the parts of the raptor that shouldn't be seen so it looks like it's in the scene with him. This will take alot of time but it will prevent you from using blue/greenscreens that alot of people can spot.

Nayman
posted 12-17-2000 08:37 PM           
Thanx thedude

go toronto

Jeff F
posted 12-17-2000 11:38 PM           
If you are going to rotoscope, a trick I use with still images is to make a selection of the object that is going to be in the foreground. You could make a quick mask & convert it into a selection, or use the magic wand at various settings, but I zoom into the image and use a zillion short segments of the polygon selection tool, then go back and fudge it after the element is selected.

Copy that part of the layer, make a new transparent layer, and paste the selection onto it. Now the overlapped oject is sandwiched betweeen the background plate and a copy of what you want in the foreground. You need to keep the background & foreground layers aligned, but you can tweak the position of the overlapped layer.

Flatten and repeat. Rotoscoping in any fashion is a lot of work.

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thedude
posted 12-18-2000 04:41 PM           
the new photoshop has a magic eraser tool. And you don't need to flatten once if you are using .flm (although they take a few minutes to load depending on your comp and the size of the movie)

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