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sausage
posted 03-09-2000 05:26 PM           
I am finally buying Premiere 5.1. Since building the bluescreen and doing some tests with Premiere's bluescreen abilities, I found that getting the matte 100% perfect was a bit difficult.

Now I must admit that we hadn't finished building the lights at the time and so the lighting could have been much better set up, but I wanted to get a general option from Premiere users...

Do you find the bluescreen abilities more than adequate once you have a clean bluescreen and is well lit? Or is it generally rough, requiring extra matting software to do a better job?

Case in point, to those who have seen 'Tietanic', where the stormtrooper watches the boat leave. It was a great/clean bluescreen effort. Does anyone know if Premiere's bluescreen was all that was nescessary or did the makers use a matting plugin as well?

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Noel Webster
posted 03-09-2000 06:11 PM           
Sadly, I've never had much luck with Premiere's keying capabilities, except for computer-generated images and such.

If you can afford it, you might want to consider purchasing the After Effects 4.1 Production Bundle. The keying features in AE are superb, and with a little effort, you should be able to get a clean matte for darn near anything, even for problem areas like semi-transparent objects and "hair blowing in the wind".

If you can't afford AE right away, I'd suggest making long-term plans to purchase it eventually. It's packed with tools that will save you a lot of time and money on your future films.

- Noel

lyvewyer
posted 03-09-2000 06:17 PM           
ive had AE for a long time, just taking up space on my hard drive, i was wondering if there are any good sites with tutorials, i will soon buy a book on it, but was wondering if there are any good tut's online. also, ive already been to and bookmarked the after effects portal, its not that helpful.

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sausage
posted 03-09-2000 06:30 PM           
I would suggest your manual would be the best place to start. Anyone else use Premiere for keying?

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EdgeMan
posted 03-09-2000 07:54 PM           
I have tried to get good keying from premiere but, sadly, it is not the program's strong suit. Noel is correct in saying that AE4.1 production is worth saving for. It is built for keying, and from all reports, it rocks. Rember though, the three magic components of good keying (and any production for that matter) are lighting, lighting, and lighting.

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sausage
posted 03-09-2000 08:16 PM           
Ok, then I guess that's the answer then. Well... in that case, can I live without premiere? I currently use Media studio pro 2.5 (the older version). Can AE compliment this software? Do I import the AVI's into AE onto two video strips and work it there before exporting a processed AVI file?

I have the tryout limited version of AE but of course I have no idea about the interface just yet. Sounds like I better go back to ebay again and keep watch.

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videoman1
posted 03-10-2000 08:18 AM           
How about Discreet Effect? It's only $200 something for us students. It can do 2d and 3d compositing, but is it really much good at chroma-keying?? As good as AE?

schnarf283
posted 03-11-2000 10:51 PM           
There is a program called axogon ( http://www.axogon.com ). I have tried it, but not the keying abilities, but all th reviewers said it was exactly like AE. Oh yeah -- did I mention -- it's free.

sausage
posted 03-12-2000 12:58 AM           
I use Axogon, the keying is a little complicated but the results are ok. Not as good as the demo of premiere.

Just recieved Lumiere on a magazine coverdisc today. I'll give that a go too.

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sausage
posted 03-12-2000 05:28 PM           
Ok, here is the deal. Lumiere is excellent! It's bluescreening and keying blew my demo version of Premiere out of the water.

I will not be needing Premiere.

See my post 'Free bluescreen processing software!!!' for more details.

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