I need help exporting footage onto VHS through Premiere Please....

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WEEZL
posted 12-26-1999 11:53 PM           
HI, I am using premiere to export my edited footage onto VHS. I am using the DC10 plus capture card and I'm in a spot of bother. In the Adobe Premiere manual it says all I have to do is go to file> export> print to video and then hook my VCR up to the capture card and play the footage full screen whilst recording on the VCR and it will export the footage to tape. Sounds simple but I can't get it to work. Whenever I have finished recording the VHS tape only has static on it. I don't know if its the way I connected the VCR to the capture card or what. I am really not good at this computer stuff. I connected the VCR and capture card via a RCA to RCA cable from Capture card's composite video output to the VCR's composite video input. Is that correct or is that where I have gone wrong. Any help would be great since I have to export this tape by Wednesday. Also in the Premiere manual it says that another option is to goto file> export> export to tape but I cannot click on the export to tape button. I don't know what to do. Sorry about this long post but I thought I would explain my problem in detail in case anyone was confused. Thanks again.

WEEZL

NJRFilms
posted 12-27-1999 08:25 AM           
make sure u render it.
Then make sure the video is in the video IN port of your vcr (a lot of VCRs only have video OUT). and then the video OUT of your capture card... do the same thing with audio in/out.

Film Boy
posted 12-27-1999 01:47 PM           
Yes. In MY experience (with my DC30+) I have connections like this:
DC30 Vid out --> VCR Vid in
DC30 Aud out --> VCR Aud in
VCR Vid out --> TV Vid in
VCR Aud out --> TV Aud in
With this simple setup, I can see on my TV whatever I'm working on. (even in a project when just using the time bar to scroll around) It's always presented on the TV.
Which leads me to believe that if you just get to the beginning of the project, hit record on your VCR and play the project, it should come out. I have never needed to use the print to video or anything like that.
It's worth a try if nothing else works.

doom1701
posted 12-27-1999 02:45 PM           
I'm not terribly familiar with the DCxx family, but I do know from experience that a lot of capture cards only have a video in, and not a video out. Hooking the In jack of the VCR to the In jack of the capture card is just going to capture noise.

If your capture card only has an input jack, one inexpensive (well, realtively inexpensive) option would be to get a video card (not a capture card, but a replacement for the card that your monitor plugs into) tha has an RCA video out jack in addition to the regular monitor plug.

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WEEZL
posted 12-28-1999 09:04 AM           
I tried everything you guys said and still cant get it to work! Arrggghhh! This is frustrating because I know it is probably something really simple and i'm just to dumb to figure it out. Anyway, what I did is I connected the VCR and DC10plus and TV up the way Film Boy said to and I couldnt get a picture on the television, just static. Then I rendered the footage in Studio DC10plus (the program that comes with the capture card) and in the manual it says that after I've rendered it all I have to do is play and record but it doesn't work damnit! All I am doing is getting static. No sound nothing! What is wrong? Is there something I have to setup to make Premiere and Studio DC10plus pick up my VCR or what? I REALLY REALLY need your help on this because I have to edit some footage by tommorow and I don't have enough space on my hard drive until I export some stuff onto VHS. PLEASE help me!

Thanks.

WEEZL

[This message has been edited by WEEZL (edited 12-28-1999).]

Frank Milne
posted 12-28-1999 10:41 AM           
I have a 3rd party mpeg player. I shoot and edit my films at 640x480, when i'm ready to tape it to s-vhs I reduce my mons resolution to 640x480, then I play the film back at full screen and tape what I see onto my s-vhs deck. Is that too much of a low tech solution??

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XNando
posted 12-28-1999 08:12 PM           
Hope I can help. I have a DC10 plus and I think your problem is not with the RCA cables, they seem to be well connected.
I think you may be having problems with the output selection in your MIRO DC10 software, there are 3 types of output: S-VHS, Composite and Windows. You must choose the composite output to send the signal to the the RCA cable, the S-VHS obviously sends the signal to the S-VHS cable and the windows option sends it only to your computer monitor. Another important thing, render your video in Premiere but when printing it to video, use the standard windows Media Player to play it back, it is easier and has less chance of causing sound synchronization problems as Premiere is a heavy program and will take amount of your memory that you should have to play your video.
To ensure you have selected the composite output, make sure you see a MIRO logo on the window of your AVI file, you must not see the movie in your computer unless you have selected the overlay function which I don't recommend as it may cause dropped frames. You have to see the video in your TV.
Hope I could help, anything else I can help, send an e-mail.
As it is my first time writting here, I don't know if it puts my e-mail automaticaly, so...
xnando@hotnet.net

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[This message has been edited by XNando (edited 12-28-1999).]

Grifter
posted 12-28-1999 09:50 PM           
I don't know if this would help or not and please don't take ofence because I know I often overlook simple stuff. Mae sure your chanel on your v.c.r. or tv is set to the Auxillary channel. Hope this'll help.

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WEEZL
posted 12-29-1999 06:30 AM           
Grifter, dont' worry I haven't taking offence but I am very embarrased because you know what? Thats exactly what I had overlooked (hehe) I can't beleive I was so stupid!!! Anyway I still have but one problem, I now have picture and sound on my VHS tape but the quality of the picture is really bad. It is in black and white and has lines running up and down the screen. Is this because my VCR is an old piece of crap or is it because of some quality settings or something in StudioDC10plus? Anyway thankyou very much guys and sorry I wasted your time with such a stupid question. GOD! I suck! Anyway. seeya.

WEEZL

funkymunkey
posted 12-29-1999 08:06 PM           
Okay, the DC10+ is not fully compatable with Premiere. The "print to video" will almost never work from Premiere on a DC10+ card (you're lucky you're even getting black and white). If you're stuck inside the Premiere environment here are some tips. Double click the Pinnacle Sys. Icon in your sys tray. Right click the Title Bar the says DC10+ Studio Control, then check the option that says Video Output and Preview. You should be able to render the clip and directly get ouput to an exteral monitor or recording device right from the Adobe Premiere timeline. The quality should be good. Keep in mind the video settings in Premiere, too. You should be using the MJPEG supplied CODEC (this will also cut rendering time due to hardware acc.), make sure the resolution is a DC10+ friendly size, namely 640x480, 320x240, 608x456, or 304x228. If that doesn't work, you can always use the old standby: Render your work as an MJPEG compressed AVI and export it from DC10+ Studio's Make Video, sure you'll have to do a little more rendering, but you're guarenteed Studio quality.

tigerquoll
posted 12-31-1999 11:18 PM           
Pinnacle don't offer any support for the DC10 under premiere. Some users have had varied results with the DC30 plugin for premiere though it was a waste of time for me. Heaps of info at http://webboard.pinnaclesys.com/cgi-bin/ultimate.cgi . Search for "DC10 Premiere". A common approach is to export your movie from premiere as an AVI. Long projects may have to be chunked into a series of < 2 Gb files to avoid the nasty 2Gb limit on AVI files. You may then play it to tape with a brilliant little program called AVI_IO. AVI_IO will link all the AVI files back together and doesn't have the audio sync problems that many DC10 users experience with Pinnacle's own Studio software. AVI_IO can be found at http://www.nct.ch/multimedia/avi_io/

WEEZL
posted 01-01-2000 06:26 AM           
I did actually render and export my file through studio DC10plus and it came out black and white and with lines through it. I don't know whats wrong with it.

tigerquoll
posted 01-01-2000 08:50 PM           
Are you getting problems with just the tapes you are making or the output directly from the card?

First it is really important to make sure you have the right video format. If you are in the USA or Japan use NTSC, for Australia and Europe use PAL.

If possible connect the "video out" from the card directly to the "video in" on a TV to see if you're getting a clean signal from the card. You should get color bars on the TV screen (or a test pattern). Is the color ok in this image?

Then play a video file out to the TV. Use the copy of "media player" that comes with the DC10+ and play an avi file containing one of your captured video sequences? If this plays ok then the problem lies somewhere in your video recorder.

Problems with the video recorder could include bad cables, wrong video input, dirty heads, damaged tape. How well does the video record normally? Can you record a clean signal from your video camera directly to the video (ie connect the video out of your camera directly to the input of your vcr and tape it.. does that work ok?)

good luck

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