Author Topic: The World vs. Adobe After FX and Premeire drowning_fish
posted 02-03-2000 08:05 PM
Hello! I have the anti-adobe package (not that i dislike adobe products, i havent come around to them.) I have Ulead Mediastudio 5, Paint Shop Pro, 3dsmax, and a pinnacle StudioPCTV (all this good stuff for two consumer level vhs-c cameras im borrowing from friends!!!!! Anyone know a cheap alternative for better picture?)

Anyway, the point is, is there anything im missing out on by not having adobe products? I tried photoshop, and i think paint shop pro is much easier to use (probably not as powerful). As i stand i think i have a powerful studio apart from the cameras and the analog-ness, but is the software holding me back? I love MS5, its so easy and powerful! So is PSP, and 3dsmax has a learning curve but is SO powerful. Thoughts?

THANKS!!!!

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funkymunkey
posted 02-03-2000 08:14 PM
It really depends on what you're going to do. Premiere is easy to use once you learn how. The easiest way to learn a program is just to practice with it (and you should always get yourself a good book). Personally, I think you are missing out on a lot, esp. with PSP. Photoshop is a lot more powerful than PSP, it's just about as easy too. The thing is, when new users look at Photoshop they see so many options that they think it's really difficult to learn, but it's not. Anyway, other people may tell you different (I know we have a die hard Paint Shop Pro user here ).

lyvewyer
posted 02-03-2000 08:35 PM
i personnaly think that premiere and photoshop are very easy to use. but then again, i catch on to programs very fast. i taught myself photoshop and premiere each in about two weeks, with no books. then i bought a premiere book and now i know almost everything i need to know about it. and photoshop is very powerfull, i still havent found out what all the little menus do , but i can make very good art with it. for an example, go to the site in my signature. the big graphic at the top was made by me the second week i had photoshop.

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crazy lou
posted 02-04-2000 12:51 AM
whats the name on that pemiere book, haven't found one in my area. maybe i should go to borders not the outlet.

later
Tom

i have premiere and photoshop...and lots of other stuff too. i use this for that and that for this and so on and so on...

funkymunkey
posted 02-04-2000 05:20 PM
I bought the "Visual Quickstart Guide to Adobe Premiere 5.1." It's a very simple book and it's also very cheap, $15. It's a great book to help you learn the basics of Premiere, from there, you can experiment with Premiere and find out everything else on your own (that's the best way). But, if you're looking for a more comprehensive (and expencive) book, I've heard good things about the "Adobe: Classroom In a Book" series. They're about $50.

Frank Milne
posted 02-04-2000 05:30 PM
I had no clue there was a visual quickstart guide to rpemiere 5.1! I didn't see it on amazon or B&N. Is it new?

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"I like to see things as I remember them, not as they were."

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Frank Milne
posted 02-04-2000 05:36 PM
I looked up the visual quickstart guide to premiere. It hasw an average owenr review of one and a half stars. He'res some of the things the people who bought it said;

(this is copy and pasted in so if it looks funky that's why)

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Buy Something Else
Reviewer: Greg Grim from Marin County January 22, 2000
Bolante's book isn't even a good quickstart guide. I would guess that he assigned one of his students to walk through the product's menus and repeat what they say. The book touts itself as having no "lengthy explanations". Indeed. Bolante only inspired me to buy and appreciate Adobe's own Classroom In A Book (which does have explanations and only 34 more pages)

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Disappointing except as a quickstart guide
Reviewer: Ross Flaven from Boulder, CO December 10, 1999
Although marketed as a "quickstart" guide, I was disappointed at the lack of technical and explanatory text. Data rate is an important
variable using Premiere, yet Bolante discounts a discussion of the complex topic by referring the reader back to Adobe's user guide and
online help system...two pieces of the product that encouraged me to run screaming for better information. Bolante's book tends toward
linear instruction (i.e., do this, then this, then this...) and is best used, indeed, as only a quick start tool.
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Now things to consider is that one book is $50 and the other is $15. If you are in dire need then the $15 book which got such awful reviews is the one for you. But the $50 has all stars filled in owner feedback. I might get em both myself.

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"I like to see things as I remember them, not as they were."

-Bill Pullman "Lost Highway"

funkymunkey
posted 02-04-2000 05:43 PM
Premiere 5.1 for Mac and Windows:Visual Quickstart Guide @ amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201354756/o/qid=949703919/sr=8-1/002-62171 39-4720211

Adobe Premiere 5 Classroom In a Book @ amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1568304676/ref=sim_books/002-6217139-4720211

I got mine at Border Books so I didn't have a chance to see the reviews. I still, however, think the Quickstart Guide is invaluable and inexpencive. Of course the book doesn't go into the depths of Premiere, what did they expect for $15? I wouldn't even compare the two, but the choice is up to you.

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lyvewyer
posted 02-04-2000 05:47 PM
i have the visual quickstart guides to premiere 5.1 and 3ds max3, they are very easy to use and learn from. i figured out lots of stuff from both and am still reading them. i highly recommend them.

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Madness
posted 02-05-2000 11:03 PM
Well since this is a low budget board i have a low budget solution.

I learned adobe premeire the easy and cheap way. Although there is alots of information at a library it is not current. I prefer the computer books at borders books and music or barnes and noble.

I use it as a library. I go there with a spiral note book, sit down at a table and go through the books and take notes. I get allt he main points and read important parts. In about 4 hours i had learned adobe premiere.

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