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Topic: human ... on fire ... please help!
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moviegirl
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posted 10-14-1999 03:15 PM
Hi ... working on producing a script that calls for a person to light herself on fire -- particularly her head/hair ...
any ideas on relatively easy & safe ways to do this are greatly needed and appreciated!H.R. Amick
Run Amok Productions/No Relation Productions |
Kwitcherbit_chen
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posted 10-14-1999 04:00 PM
Is there any way you can cut that out of the script? I highly recommend not trying this. It is very VERY dangerous and someone will most likely get hurt. I repeat "DO NOT TRY THIS!!!!!" Cut it out of the script or find some other way of her getting hurt like being cut or shot or something. |
Wisper
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posted 10-14-1999 04:06 PM
I'd say try a dummy, but I don't want to get yelled at when things go wrong and fire breaks out. I think it is an oxymoron to mention safety and fire effects together in the amateur board. What's that quote about work, money, and quality? If you want low budget fire safety, you'll have to work your butt off. I'm reminded of a special I saw on TV about some teen film makers who had to do a burning man from a car scene. The victim walked, or rather crawled, away with third degree burns up and down his legs, ass, and back. And maybe you're not looking at setting an actual person on fire, but have decided to go with a dummy. Three words for ya: Flying burning debris. Safety? Fuhgedabowdit. At least with traditional deadly special effects you'll only hurt yourself or lose an eye. To quote a grand cliche, now you're playing with fire. I will not recommend any method for faking a burning person.
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chow
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posted 10-14-1999 04:51 PM
well, you could always try adding the effect with computer software. i don't know if it would turn out very well, but it is much safer and worth a try------------------
ChowYfat |
Panama
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posted 10-14-1999 05:49 PM
In most movies or TV shows, the person on fire is conveniently wearing a protective flame-retardant suit, so unless you have one of these I wouldn't recommend it (and even if you did I still wouldn't recommend it if you're an amateur or semi-professional). However, here's an alternative I came up with to film someone's hair on fire (requires blue screen Chromakey):
First, film the subject's head, as if you were shooting the scene with her head actually on fire. Next, film a small fire in front of a bluescreen (or greenscreen)...but be VERY carefull; if the bluescreen is blue cloth, you don't want it catching fire! Then, superimpose the fire on top of the person's head! I'm not sure how this would turn out; probably not great...what do you guys think? |
Benny
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posted 10-14-1999 07:41 PM
my first movie i ever did involved such an effect, now how did i do that you ask? A dummy. i just made a cross out off wood, that looked like a man with his arms out..
and then i dressed the "cross" with the clothes that the actor had during the movie and put it on fire *S*. Turned out ok.
but i should probably say that we did this outdoors becuase we didn't want anything to be put on fire by accident.------------------
Benny [This message has been edited by Benny (edited 10-14-1999).] |
moviegirl
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posted 10-14-1999 11:36 PM
Hi gang ...Okay, I'm a little red-faced now. I guess I didn't really put all the stuff that was in my head down in the post about the fire ... leading everyone to think that I was actually going to light someone's head ablaze. Not so. As I adamantly pointed out to one concerned member, I am not a novice filmmaker, nor am I careless or reckless on the set (or off it, for that matter). I NEVER intended to light up my lead actress (no matter how irritating talent can sometimes be!) <g> I am fully intending to shoot the scene using a dummy/scarecrow/mannequin ... some other fake human-looking thing. My question for you all is ... what sort of materials looks the best when set on fire? This is OUTSIDE and there will be plenty of crew members standing by with fire extinguishers ... just as they were when I did my last fire effect which called for a man's hands to be on fire ... and it worked beautifully) So, if anyone has had very good visual success with any particular media, please let me know! Many thanks for all your replies (and concerns!) H. R. Amick
Run Amok Productions/No Relation Productions |
Lolita
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posted 10-15-1999 01:13 PM
I don't know what kind of movie you're shooting, but if you want to go the safest and least sensational route, show the girl with a match- the glow of the fire- how she looks after (charred, I'd guess). |
Jeff F
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posted 10-16-1999 11:08 AM
I hope by outside you mean in a parking lot far from any automobiles. Smokey the Bear wants You to prevent forest fires!An Ultracl 30 lifecast (colored intrinsically) of the actor with their face in an appropriate expression could be doused with fuel and set on fire without damaging it. ------------------
Jeff F - Magic and FX
Amazing the Masses
[This message has been edited by Jeff F (edited 10-16-1999).] |
