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Topic: Fake Body
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pm5k
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posted 10-12-1999 01:53 AM
What would be a real good way to make a fake ody, that would have to include a few head shot close-ups? |
Lab Rat
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posted 10-12-1999 03:34 AM
Well, is it going to be falling or something? I'm just wondering because couldn't you use a real actor for the closeups, but then maybe a stuffed set of clothes for the other shots? |
buffy
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posted 10-12-1999 04:12 AM
Wouw. Havenīt we seen enough cloth bodies? As a matter of fact, real people, no matter how dead they are, donīt sway with their extremities in midst air in each mentionable direction. If falling is included, or BTW in any case, use some sort of a skeleton frame. As for the close-ups, Lab Ratīs right. No way youīre gonna make a fake face look real. Michelangelo wouldnīt. |
Benny
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posted 10-13-1999 07:07 PM
some more facts would help...
is the body dead? or is someone alive and about to be killed? give us some more facts and we will be able to help you even more.
if dead, why don't you just use the actor to play a victim? and just add the blood and wounds or whatever you need to make the FX look good, and let him play dead.
if alive, what is supposed to happen? is someone being killed? hit by a car? stabbed? you get the idea, right? some more facts and info would be great.------------------
Benny |
gore master
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posted 10-14-1999 01:11 AM
I have seen several dummy heads, etc which looked VERY realistic. It all depends on how good you are at it, how well it lit and filmed. If you need a fake head and make one, make it as detailed as possible. Make sure it has a skin texture. Copy everything(or as close as you can) on their face. A beard stubble(if they have some) can be unsettling and give a great effect. Punch hair into the beard area and shave it with an electric shaver. make sure the eyes have that nice glossy finish. Paint them to look EXACTLY like the person's eyes(or have someone who's goo at that to do it for you). However it is best to just show the real actor lying there with cuts, etc. And more details would help. |
Jeff F
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posted 10-16-1999 11:58 AM
Check issue #21 of Make Up Artist magazine, page 28 for a nice photo of Steve Johnson's XFX studio's work. The head and body are hellishly realistic - but these are top notch professionals in their field using the best materials available.Michealangelo and other masters were concerned with expressing themselves. They were brilliant creators, expressing ideas and emotions while capturing the essence of the human form. They were not experts in creating specific types of illusions - whole or partial replicas of humans intended for film. Does this mean that Steve Johnson's crew members are better artists than the masters? Of course not! They are simply better at creating certain types of technical illusions. Their work will never convey the magic that makes the masters timeless. Modern sculptor Duane Hansen's Trompe D'Oleil human figures are in the collections of many museums and have earned him a widespread reputation as an artist as well as an enviable pile of money. Is he a better artist than the masters, worse, or just different? Only time will tell (istory judges master works and artists, not current fashions or art critics), but one thing is for certain - people can and do mistake Hanson's resin cast figures for real people at times, thus establishing him as a zTrompe D'Oleil artist (literally translated: "fool the eye") - one who specializes in illusionary art. ------------------
Jeff F - Magic and FX
Amazing the Masses
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klade
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posted 10-17-1999 04:56 AM
Oh, I havenīt seen that magazine. Can you tell me the publisher?Klade |
F
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posted 10-17-1999 04:23 PM
Now I did not read all the posts in this topic, but how real the body looks depends on how long it has been dead I guess.. Yesterday I found a site on the internet where they sold fake corpses, and a do-it-yourself book. I don't remember the address, but if you go to www.ask.com and search for "Where can I buy online?", there should come up alternatives of subjects on things to buy. Choose miscelaneous (or however you spell that) and then choose corpse.. Yeehaa, you can now order a fake corpse. A pretty nasty real-looking one too..F
ow.findhere.com
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sheri
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posted 10-18-1999 03:18 PM
Klade, you can find out about make-up artist magazine at www.makeupmag.com. They also sell individual issues. it's an awesome resource. |
FXMan
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posted 10-20-1999 08:07 AM
Hey Klade,I have to agree with Jeff and Sheri. I saw that body that Steve Johnson created and you'd have sworn that it was someone laying there on the table. Passers by even swore up and down that they saw it breathing - though it wasn't. Just incredibly good work. You HAVE to see this if you can get the Makeup Artists Magazine as Sheri says. It is an INCREDIBLY good resource packed full of great articles and material. Check it out. The issue JEff mentions has the photo of that in there. But if you want to see it now, go to my web site and on the main index page of the site there is a link to a review of the 3rd annual makeup artists convention. At the bottom is a link to pages of photos and that one is in there. But there are 3 pages of something like 26 photos per page so it might take a while to load. Good luck. FXMan |
chow
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posted 10-21-1999 07:15 PM
i think the website to which you refer is the amusingly titled corpses for sale. it is at http://distefano.com it is kind of pricey, but the corpses are pretty cool looking and remind me of the heavily rotted semi skeletal zombies in some horror movies rather than a fresh corpse |
