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Author
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Topic: MY DIRECTOR
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amittman
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posted 10-29-1999 10:50 PM
OK HERE IT IS.....NO ARGUMENT....i am laying down pure opinion and i am asking that all of you respond cause i want to know what you guys think....The best director of my present time....i am 16....is DAVID FINCHER. OK, NOW I AM SURE THAT YOU ARE SHOCKED THAT I HAVE JUST SAID THIS. Hear me out. I believe that david fincher is one of the greatest directors today. OK, you could say that speilberg or kubrick or others but......$%#^ THEM. Kubrick is &*%* dead and speilberg is a $#%#^ cliche...talk about being permenently desperate to feed the brains and "wants" of the academy. The only director so far that i have seen live on the edge since kubrick is DAVID FINCHER. He is the "new hitchcock". he is the first person in a while that has actually created a movie that has delved deap into the minds of modern frustrated americans. With his dark images he has created a somber yet incredably unique style. Speilberg can keep flushing out that "war" and history doody with "saving private cliche" and "amistad crap" and try as hard as he is to give his buddy "oscar" another friend. I stronly believe that "seven" and "fight club" have been the most intelectual films done by "living" director. I want to know how others feel ....RESPOND!!! it is ok to differ in opinion...please do NOT AGREE WITH ME...i would be more interested in hearing the response of those who disagree!!!LATER,
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tomdonnelly
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posted 10-29-1999 11:09 PM
Forget David Fincher. The best director is Peter Jackson. He's still living, and makes the best movies ever. He has proved that not only can he do gore/comedies, but dramas as well as proven by "Heavenly Creatures" and the upcoming "Lord of the Rings Trilogy". Jackson is the best living film director! |
leoN
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posted 10-30-1999 01:37 AM
I am kinda distressed at your lack of respect, though i did not particulary enjoy "eyes wide shut"..films such as "full metal jacket" will live on ....despite the death of Stanley Kubrick.....David Fincher is a very innovative director and i enjoyed "fight club" but other directors such as DAVID O. RUSSELL need to be mentioned...in three kings he used his skills as a storyteller and his new unconvential filmaking style to make one of the best films of the year....in short.....
be more respectful of the past without it there would be no future..... |
GeN0CiDe
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posted 10-30-1999 08:53 AM
Forget all that... Kevin Smith all the way - No three movies can beat the Jersey Trilogy, and need I mention Dogma? |
ahlstar
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posted 10-30-1999 11:11 AM
I can't believe this guy has said, DAVID FINCHER, he has made like 2 films, how can you figure on that? you have to go with a director that has made more than 5 films, atleast two of them has won an academy award. i will go with martin scorcese or francis ford cappola, stanley kubrick, steven speilberg, doug liman, goerge lucas, and need i say, the horror master WES CRAVEN. david finsher is a rookie! |
giallo jerry
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posted 10-30-1999 11:34 AM
how about:
JOEL AND ETHAN COEN
JIM JARMUSCH
ROBERTO BEGNINI
TIM ROBBINS
MICHELE SOAVI
DARIO ARGENTO(ok, he's not so new but he's still living)
GIUSEPPE TORNATORES
and yadiyadi yada
sorry I don't like TARANTINO, KEVIN SMITH or THE WARCHOWSKY bros.(hey, the Matrix was good but a little bit overated, I mean just look at the ending). ------------------
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King Dork
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posted 10-30-1999 09:44 PM
I don't like contradicting people Ahlstar, but Liman's a rookie as well. A good rookie, but still a rookie.------------------
Nobody ever accused me of being cool. |
ahlstar
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posted 10-31-1999 11:16 AM
exactly he is a good rookie, fincher just doesn't make good movies
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Red 5
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posted 10-31-1999 07:52 PM
Okay, you say that you can't judge a guy until he's made at least 5 films. Liman's made only 3. You see the problem? |
seejay
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posted 11-01-1999 12:28 AM
In the words of my film professer Rob Silberman, "David Fincher is a facist filmmaker, no matter what he claims. His film Fight Club is an interesting film with a horribly confused second half. I don't believe Mr. Fincher knows quite what he's trying to say." Mr. Silberman brings up some pretty good points and although I enjoyed fight club it is far from an american classic. (see American Beauty). For a cutting edge director I suggest Terry Gilliam and by the way the new Hitchcock is Brian De Palma.------------------
Galactic Empire Films |
THXdude
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posted 11-01-1999 09:23 AM
What David has done till now is pretty IMPRESSIVE,but the Fincher dude is still standing in his babyshoes compared to the others, if u comp their filmography, but I do know that when time comes he'll f*ck up the filmworld GOOD(!!) in a positive way than....but hey ,focus for a few moments on my nr1 director ROBERT ZEMECKIS....Contact and ofcourse Forrest Fump...the rest will flow later..............------------------
Thank you,but no thanks...
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Panama
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posted 11-01-1999 04:02 PM
Hey, seejay: it's good to know there's another Terry Gilliam fan here...pure genius. I'd have to say his very best film, his masterpiece, if you will, is Brazil, followed by 12 Monkeys. How about you? |
giallo jerry
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posted 11-01-1999 07:50 PM
''I like New York and you, how about you?''No seriously im' a big Terry Gilliam fan, too(heck, whatever comes out of Monthy Pyton must be good!). P.S. where can I get the lyrics of the song ''Brazil''? ------------------
european-horror@e-Groups.com |
EricM
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posted 11-01-1999 08:07 PM
All the directors listed so far are very good, but here are my two cents worth about Fincher...
I hated his first film, Alien 3. That's not to say it wasn't directed well, the story just sucked. What bugged me most about it was the total disrespect it had for the second film, one of my all time faves.
I hated Alien 3 so much I never saw Seven in the theaters. I caught it on video and proceeded to kick myself in the ass for not seeing it on the big screen. I really liked this film. Good story and it looked great.
I decided to give Alien 3 another chance. I watched it again and it still stunk.
I saw The Game on the big screen and liked it, but I have yet to see it a second time. I think its one of those films that just won't be as good as you thought it was on a second viewing.
Then I saw the Fight Club. There is a good movie in there somewhere, but it didn't quite make it to the screen. It was too long because of scenes that whent nowhere. Remember that one when the owner of the bar tells them to get out and Brad Pitt makes him let them stay? That scene did nothing. If it was cut out it would make no difference to the story. There was also a 20 min. dream sequence that was cut out. The film would have been way too long if it was left in.
Anyway, I like Fincher. I wouldn't put him on the top of my list (just for Alien 3 alone), but he's someone I'll keep my eye on.
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Sfleury
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posted 11-02-1999 11:53 PM
David Fincher is a decent director. The main problem I have with him is that the "feel" of his movies tend to be the same. He tries to build up tension in each shot of his films, even in the scenes that don't need it. Tension doesn't belong in a character development scene IF the point of the scene is for the characters to realize that they can be friends. (See Seven & Alien 3)
I have to agree with the others that Terry Gilliam is the best contemporary directory. My second choice would be Jean-Pierre Jeunet. Putting Alien:Ressurection aside, City of Lost Children and Delicatessan are two of the best movies that I have seen in a long time. Each have a dark, gritty feel to them without falling into the gothic "pity me I'm worthless" attitude that acompanies most goth these days. Character development is slow and believable (except in Alien.. but who wants character development as long as Sigorney kicks butt?) I recommend his movies to any and all who haven't seen them. And if you have, go see em again! |
Galaven
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posted 11-03-1999 07:09 AM
For some strange reason, I cant find George Lucas listed here, so here is my contribution to this thread.
Personally I find your lack of respect for the all time trilogy (well, now its a quadragy, or whatever, I guess) Star Wars appalling but I guess everybody is entitled to their own opinion.
Just kidding  ------------------
Forget the Past
Live the Moment
Think the Future [This message has been edited by Galaven (edited 11-03-1999).] |
ahlstar
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posted 11-03-1999 04:12 PM
i mentioned george lucas, galavan, why don't you read the boxes before you make a statement. not to be rude, just a sort of advice. it sounded rude didn't it? it isn't intended to be." what doesn't kill us makes us stronger"
-Jim Carey
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