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Topic: Eye holes in latex masks
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undead
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posted 11-20-2000 03:58 PM
I'm trying to make a set of eyeholes that reveal as little as possible of the person behind the mask. The problem is, the mask's eyes need to lie in the same place that the true eyes will be, and whenever I sculpt an indentation for sight in the right place it offsets the eyes of the mask.
The monstermakers book that I'm going by completely ignores the subject.
Anybody have any "rules of thumb" that I can apply here? |
undead
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posted 11-21-2000 08:39 AM
...because I figure that being able to see out of a mask is pretty important, so eyeholes are somewhat necessary. My favorite masks are the ones that you can see out of, while at the same time you cannot be seen from the outside. Just wondering what particular methods YOU like to use to achieve this effect. |
FangsandFurF/X
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posted 11-21-2000 10:04 PM
I have a mask that was worn this Halloween that encorporates (sp?) black material on the back side of the eye holes that make it look like there is nothing on the inside of the mask. The effect is on a skeleton and is done very well.
It is slightly harder to see out of but worth the trouble.
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undead
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posted 11-22-2000 03:36 PM
Thanks, Fangs. I think I've finally got my sculpt right, just concerned that the eyeholes may be too close together. If that's so then my mask will have these ridiculously deep indentations for no reason, but that's all in learning, I guess. |
morpherguy
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posted 12-20-2000 08:18 AM
Depending on your design, you can put the eye holes within deep wrinkles. Black nylon over the holes will help to disguise your eyes too. |
FXMan
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posted 12-20-2000 09:12 AM
If I understand this correctly you're problem lies in the fact that you DON'T have a lifecast of whoever would wear the mask, thus having to guess-timate where the eyeholes should go to line up. If I were you, I'd try to get if not a life mask to sculpt on - of the person who wears the mask - or at least as many measurements as you can get of the person's face. GENERIC eyeholes is an estimate at any rate if you aren't doing it on a specific life cast and only making generic masks to fit just about anyone. Then all you can do is go with "standard" placements or measurements. Never an easy task. If you don't use a life mask, then measure everyone you can get to sit still for five minutes to see how measurements compare and go with an "average" eyehole width and/or placement on the faces you measure.Good luck. FXMan
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Cinetech
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posted 12-20-2000 03:44 PM
They usually put them in the hollow of the fold right above the eyelid and that seems to be the standard placement for the ones sold in stores. for any questions regarding masks, Go to the "Death Studios" website and ask them there. If anyone out there hasn't heard of Death Studios yet, They are a company that makes, by far the best looking masks. Some of them look so good that you wish that the designs could be used in actual movies, as they are better than most movie monsters seen up to now. |
morpherguy
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posted 12-20-2000 04:41 PM
I like death studio masks too but they are no way as good as movie monsters. I'll bet you've never seen a movie monster close up. Those things have so much detail in them that it can sometimes boggle your mind. That kind of detail would quickly fade away from the surface of production line molds such as the ones used by death studio. Nothing against them. It's just a fact that plaster molds can not hold that level of detail for more than a dozen copies unless you take special precautions such as powdering your mold each time before you pour the latex.. |
Crazy Clayer
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posted 12-21-2000 01:37 AM
Jeff Death Puts stuff in his molds so they will last for a long time, and he retires his molds quicker than most places. And the masks are all sculpted by some of the best mask sculptors and even movie Fx artists, like steve wang and tom savini. So basically they are just like the monsters in the movies except they arent made out of the same material (latex instead of foam latex or silcone or whatnot) and his paintjobs are always beautiful.seeya,
Peter Murphy |
Crazy Clayer
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posted 12-21-2000 01:38 AM
Oh and they use plaster(UC 30) for movies, and fibreglass. |
