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Topic: Operation scene
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ArriHead
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posted 12-04-2000 07:05 PM
Hey guys- I had a shoot last weekend in the operating room set- will post those pics soon. Here are some digital photos my still photographer snapped on the set. These are without flash, so this is how we lit the actual shots. I believe the pics themselves need no explanation as of yet. I want to adopt my makeup artist.
http://www.rit.edu/~jjf9917/pic1.jpg http://www.rit.edu/~jjf9917/pic2.jpg http://www.rit.edu/~jjf9917/pic3.jpg ---
Jon |
Film_Scorer
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posted 12-04-2000 10:22 PM
Wow...Excellent lighting. Though in a hopsital, they have a bright light overhead, and a lightperson off to the side somewhere. in the last picture, is that a rusty wrench?  If I knew what part of the body was being "operated" on, I'd know weather or not it is believable. Right now it looks like a place with thin, layered tissue...maybe the upper arm or face? just maybe the stomach. Once again....very nicely lit. that's usually the first thing I notice in a film/picture. ------------------
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ArriHead
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posted 12-05-2000 12:42 AM
Yes- the lighting is rather stark and contrasty, unlike that which is normally seen in an operating room. However- this is a nightmare sequence in the film, so things are purposely a little 'off' as far as cinematography and art direction. It's supposed to be an operation on someone's lower abdomen. All of the instruments we have are real surgical tools (borrowed, and of course no longer in use), and the robot arm in pic2 is a dumpster-dive. Just wait till you guys see what he's pulling out of it. I can't wait to look at the actual footage. -JJF |
crazy lou
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posted 12-05-2000 01:25 AM
NICE! i wish i could find robot arms like that around here...the only thing in our trash is, well trash  howdd you go about getting access to a hospital? know someone who knows someone, work there...how how how? later
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Movieman21
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posted 12-05-2000 02:15 AM
Wow! That was great. The makeup and effects were very good, and the lighting worked real well. All I have to say on this issue, is; !!!!JOB WELL DONE!!!!! ------------------
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Senor_Spielbergo
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posted 12-05-2000 04:47 AM
Hey its a great job but we can make it better i wish i lived in th US to help you...
ok heres what i suggest the blood is great! but the skin looks really thin so i suggest getting some latex add a little metholated spirits to it and stir it and it should go lumps then just spread it out on a flat surface pane of glass? then when it dries just peel it off and maybe if you want to use crepe hair hehe if you want that much detail, then you have to change the small things that give the scene reality... try and find some white cloves instead of those yellow ones white gloves will give the feel of an actual medical procedure and the other thing is instead of that ugly hole in the blue sheet try and make it a smooth oval shape. other than that i am totally amazed it looks great!!! oh and try and find a cool stainless steel kidney shaped tray to put your instrumentsd in with a lil water and youll get a cool look with the instruments in the dish with bloody water around it |
ArriHead
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posted 12-05-2000 09:18 AM
Crazy-loufor this scene I didn't get access to a hospital; I built a decrepid operating room in an unfinished basement. For another scene, however, there is a call for a more 'real' operating room. I have a friend who shot a couple scenes there last year, called the PR guy, and away we go. Senor_Spielbergo The complexity of the shot versus time on screen is very large, I'm afraid. For these beautiful shots, I'm only going to be cutting in seconds of it. If the stuff I've shot doesn't look right, then I'll ask my makeup artist to go back and do it again- although understand that it WAS a very smooth peice of flesh until we began slicing it. Ewww. Regarding the yellow gloves- they are a little bit yellow, but still have that medical grade sheen to them. I didn't want them totally white because they didn't match the walls anymore and I was working with a limited color pallette. We do have the kidney tray, instruments, bowl, etc. Once again, as soon as I can look at the footage, so will you. -JJF |
gore master
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posted 12-05-2000 01:18 PM
I thought it looked great. I could tell it was meant to be the lower abdomen. The skin looks very good, smooth skin like texture. Actually looks like a person's belly. The blood inside looked ok but it was kinda dark outside the body. It may have been the shadows on it though. |
Film_Scorer
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posted 12-05-2000 06:58 PM
Actually...darker blood outside the body is an acurate effect. Once blood is subjected to air, it turns red, then darker red as it dies off.------------------
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gore master
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posted 12-05-2000 11:41 PM
I couldn't really tell how you were arguing this but here are the facts(despite what others may say).
Blood, whether it comes from an artery or vain, on the outside of the body, when exposed to air, is a bright red color. Larger , denser amounts look darker but is still a bright red. Depending on the blood(people's blood varies) after settling it begins to coagulate(thicken and darken) in a matter of minutes. With some people(like me) it can happen even quicker. And with some longer. The average is a few minutes after completely settling. The blood becomes thicker however on the skin, pools will dry and become more like streams or splashes of blood. It becomes
more maroon(in larger amounts) and brown(in smaller amounts). Unless the person was cut open a good while before the operating started it would not be that dark. Even then, the little pools of blood on the skin wouldn't be thick, deep pools.Aslo try to remember most of this is stuff I have seen first hand. I not only have the knowledge, but the experience. You can argue with me about how you read it's SUPPOSED to look like but I have seen what it looks like.
that is all. |
Film_Scorer
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posted 12-06-2000 03:36 PM
uh..yeah....I think that's what I said (but mine was in a nutshell )------------------
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gore master
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posted 12-06-2000 07:37 PM
I like nutshells 
I couldn't tell what you were saying for sure. It wasn't neccesarily you but the others who do argue and claim to know regularly. did you know that when a 3 day old corpse is cut for embalming a fresh, red blood flows out. This was a body that had been in the elements as well. [This message has been edited by gore master (edited 12-07-2000).] | |
