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Topic: Night of the living dead remake/dawn
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Buddy
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posted 12-10-2000 03:44 PM
in ngiht of the living dead 90 remake they have these amazing gun shot effects. When they get shot in the head it looks so real, the wond appears and spurts blood. it couldn't of been a squib or compressed air...how was it done??------------------
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gore master
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posted 12-10-2000 05:02 PM
actually it can be done with both. A squib can be concealed under a foam latex or gelatin appliance with blood injected around the space. An appliance(ususally with passages) can be made with the hole cut out and the cut piece put back. Tubing(one for blood and one for air) can be rigged under the appliance. Air dislodges the cut piece and blood is pumped through the wound. In NOTLD '90 they had hollow ball of breakaway
glass filled with blood. These were shot onto the forehead. The only scene I know of which is similar to what you described was when a zombie was shot in the chest multiple times.
This was done with squibs under a foam rubber chest. There were no HEAD ENTRY wounds which spurted blood. I'm wondering if you're thinking of another movie. |
Buddy
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posted 12-10-2000 05:45 PM
Okay...Spurts is the wrong word. i meant when they shpt the zombies in the head and theres blood underneath. I'm not sure why i said spurt i apologise. How would they cast the breakaway glass hollow. i read somewhere something like this when they molded a marble. but when i pour in breakaway glass it hardens with not enough room to fill with blood if ity's something that small.------------------
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It's Alive! Productions
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posted 12-10-2000 05:46 PM
didn't someone say something once like it was some type of glass ball and then tom Savini projecting it to the actors head spitball style? (Im' talking about the Night remake) |
It's Alive! Productions
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posted 12-10-2000 05:47 PM
didn't someone say something once like it was some type of glass ball and then tom Savini projecting it to the actors head spitball style? (Im' talking about the Night remake) |
It's Alive! Productions
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posted 12-10-2000 05:50 PM
sorry about using the same reply twice!  |
gore master
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posted 12-10-2000 07:13 PM
yes someone did. I also just said it above along with buddy. I don't know the specifics of how they did it but if you have a 2 piece mold of a marble, you can seperate the molds and fill one half(both halves should have a half marble intention) with breakaway glass, you may be able to put the other piece on then rock the mold to slosh the liquid around and coat the edges. Do it for a while so each layer will cool and you won't have one weak part(thin layer) and one strong part where the rest of it settled. |
dogcow
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posted 12-10-2000 09:54 PM
more discussion on this topic here...
http://www.likeastory.com/boards/Forum19/HTML/000520.html
in the beyond (according to the commentary) they used blood wrapped with plastic.
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Jeff F
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posted 12-10-2000 11:57 PM
While not easily available or inexpensive, there do exist two piece brittle plastic balls that can be used for zirc hits, sawdust hits, and blood hits. Magician Jean Eugene Robert-Houdin used a similar method (a brittle wax ball made to resemble a common musket ball and filled with thick wine) to produce an apparent blood splat on a white stone wall in the late 1800's, so the concept is far from new.In manufacturing, hollow objects of many types are cast with rotocast machines - the mold has a bit of material placed in it, is clamped sht, and a machine spins it and moves the spinning mold through all z axis directions. The casting material is forced outward by centrifugal force so you have a hollow form when demolded. Not really practical for this application. Practically speaking, you could sculpt two piece balls, cast the halves sepeartely, then glue them together with one half filled. You might get better results carefully slicing a small machined ball in half and making a an open 1 piece mold of each half, letting the manufacturer of the original ball do the work of creating an accurate sphere. You could also just make a two piece mold the traditional way but skip the keys and use the halves seperately when casting. ------------------
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Magic and FX
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Buddy
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posted 12-11-2000 05:15 PM
Thanks alot Goremaster and jeff! An idea came to me...probably not new but i haven't heard of it yet. For a shotgun hit or a similar large weapon casting a rubber ball in thin latex and fill it with fake blood, then throw it at someone's stomach or chest and it would splatter. if the frames were reduced so you jsut see the splaater and not the ball it might blood like it. If any leftover peices of burst latex stick to the blood it mgiht look like flesh. what do you guys think? would it work?------------------
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