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if you can get your hands on any info from bicentenial man, they did it in there on a few different people. (BTW, that movie was good )

anyway, i'd go with gelatin or silicone appliances combined with the stage tricks to show gradual aging. Over time like you're talking exaggeration of features, addition of wrinkles, liver spots, drooping graying of the hair and that kind of thing come into play.

i've got some pics of a 5 piece old age/sex change appliance around here, put em up when i scan one. my mom was a bit creeped out, since she says it looks just like how she thinks she'll look when she gets old...which creeps me out even more

I'm not sure where newark is, but i'm outside Cleveland email and perhaps we can talk/brainstorm

later
TOm

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What age is the actor to be aged? In my opinion it is actually easier to take a few years off a middle aged person with lifts, wrinkle concealment, hairstyle, etc and add later years than to do middle aged as successfully on a young person. Relative youth and great age can stand a bit of exaggeration without it being too obvious, but middle ages are more difficult looks to achieve realistically. The face fills out, and the sags and wrinkles are subtle.

the paint/application isnt very good IMHO, as it was a rush and just a test anyway. its foam latex, 5 pieces as mentioned.

a learning experience if nothing else

later
Tom

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OOOO!!! TOM!!! This is one severe looking chick. Kind of looks like a throw-back to some 30's or 40's over-the-hill German, Brunhild-ish dominatrix. Is THAT the look you were going for?

Anyway, this is funny looking. The work is good though. You ARE a crazy person!!

FXMan
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What age is the actor to be aged?

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I don't think I can use different actors. I might be able to find four different actresses to play the heroine at the four different ages, but I don't think I'd ever be able to find four different casts with each member of each cast passing as the same person from the previous and succeeding cast.

It's not going to be easy but it could be done. It WILL take a good makeup artist no matter what you do. Even if you have 4 or 5 actresses who you could use that all look very much alike, you'd still want to maximize their looks to make them the MOST similar you get them.

Good luck.

FXMan

We then put some purple, blue, and flesh colored powdery stuff on him to give the look of visible veins. It took us a while to get his skin-tone perfect, but it was worth it in the end.

If I still have a still photo of him in the make-up, I'll scan it and post it here so you can see the results.

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The guy was in the make-up chair for an hour and a half. Just so you know what to expect, unless your fast at these things.

I hope that I have helped you out somewhat.

You're right the latex is a good idea for this Stretch Latex aging technique. However, if you do this be certain that you use the right kind of latex and to check first for any allergic reaction to it in general. Some people are highly allergic to latex. And if you use the water based lattices rather than the ammonia based lattices it's not as hard on the skin. I know from personal experience. I did this on myself once before I really knew how. And boy it DID burn and left my face good and red for days. But there is the old age stipple latex or other old age plastic solutions (not that good) that will work. With the stipple latex routine you use FOAM LATEX base. And while I know that has ammonia in it, you let it sit for a while to allow a lot of the ammonia evaporate out of it. Plus you do add some water that helps. It's a lighter formula that uses acrylic matte medium which aids in the adhesion plus some other additives too. But it's much lighter and easier on the skin which CAN be lightly moisturized a little bit before application. As well, doing a little Aloe lotion after removal helps "maintain" the skin somewhat. Though no matter what you do it's still harsh to some degree. Depends upon the person's sensitivity in things like this. But the idea is good to be sure.

Good luck.

FXMan

Thanks for the info FXman

On set is going to be another problem if there are to be many characters in extensive make up for each day's shooting. I have trained people to do basic apllication tasks and saved the "tough stuff" for myself or a key assistant to make it possible to get a lot of make ups done in a reasonable amount of time. I some scenes can be shot in the AM with some characters and shots with more characters are held for after unch you could ake up actors while the AM shooting is going on. The Director is simply going to have to be made to understand that this stuff doesn't put itself on, and unless he is willing to drop a dime on a squad of good make up artists or ask some actors to get into make up tremendously early and wait around for hours (and have to undergo repairs & touch up before they even hit the set for the first time) he's going to have to work closely with you and be as creative as possible.

You may have to hire some good people and make nothing or less on this if it is a serious chance to break through into much better paying gigs. Many shops have actually lost money on a show if it is the right vehicle to springboard them into demand, but this is a risk one shouldn't take lightly.

Old Age Stipple is limited in what it can do - for fine wrinkles it is great - sagging facial structure, no. If the nudity is to occur when the characters are very aged, you're talking about some fairly extensive prosthetics here. If the shot(s) are/is to be brief, you could get away with Stipple and a lot of careful chiaroscuro painting, but painted hignlights and shadow take time too.

Tough call to make - not impossible, but it may be a serious headache depending on your preproduction time, experience, and Director.

Good Luck, let us know if you take the gig and if we can help.