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blue
posted 01-08-2001 09:55 PM              
thanks friends!

i` m just wonder wherw do i cut on the sculpture as the human face how many piece is enough to make totally human face.
i have to make it to change actor into another actor as soon as possible similarly.
and, how to do each edges,all of edges have to be blending down all around edges .
how to apply it on the face.
now i`ve done sculpture

morpherguy
posted 01-09-2001 01:03 PM              
These are very complicated techniques that you want to do. You really should have an advanced foundation in 3D make up before you try anything so complex. It sounds to me like you have never made a prosthetic or a mold or anything before. It is unrealistic to believe that you can pull off a technique that can only be used successfully by artists with years of experience. Maybe you should consider making a single piece mask. They are much easier to make and they usually work just as well as overlapping prosthetics.

FXMan
posted 01-09-2001 01:14 PM              
I believe Jeff F (?) recommended Lee Baygan's Techniques of Three Dimensional Makeup book to you, but it answers a lot of your questions and will be an invaluable resource for learing how to do these highly technical techniques. Morpherguy is right. This takes years to learn how to do well - ESPECIALLY when you're talking about proper blending and coloring once applied. And when dealing with blending edges on a multi-piece prosthetic makeup, there are MANY factors to be considered. To discuss them here would literally take VOLUMES of discussion to get it across what Lee Baygan's book makes obvious at first reading. But you have to buy the book is all. THIS is a HUGE project if you have not done it before and if you're just beginning to work with these processes and techniques. Have you created the snap molds of each of the areas you want to seperate the prosthetics into? If not, that is a pre-requisite or you won't have anyplace to put the clay pieces you divide the sculpt into.

I suggest you deal with someone who can show you how to do this and teach you or get the books that deal with these types of processes before attempting to dive in and do it - unless you don't care about making mistakes. Are you planning on running these in foam latex? Do you know how to run foam latex? THAT process is highly technical and should only be done when you're ready for it.

Just some thoughts. Don't want to squash your enthusiasm but these processes and techniques are not simple nor are they something you can grab hold of and learn in a few days without help of someone who knows how and who can show you how. Just doesn't happen that way. Morpher is right on and I'm just reinforcing what he said.

If you want to try - by all means do. But to discuss the full technique here would take forever to get across. So try going direct with someone who can help.

Good luck.

FXMan

P.S.

By the way, I meant to tell you that the "standard" sections you can cut a sculpt into for a full face overlapping prosthetic makeup will depend upon the way it was sculpted. If old age, along the lines and creases is the obvious choice. But "standard" sections are usually comprised of nose and upper lip, lower lip and chin, neck and sides of face, eyebags, upper eyelids if used and forehead. And if appropriate bald cap and ears as well as backs of the hands and other pieces too. Especially in older age.

[This message has been edited by FXMan (edited 01-09-2001).]

blue
posted 01-10-2001 03:47 AM              
quote:
Originally posted by morpherguy:
These are very complicated techniques that you want to do. You really should have an advanced foundation in 3D make up before you try anything so complex. It sounds to me like you have never made a prosthetic or a mold or anything before. It is unrealistic to believe that you can pull off a technique that can only be used successfully by artists with years of experience. Maybe you should consider making a single piece mask. They are much easier to make and they usually work just as well as overlapping prosthetics.

i been did one piece mask,half & full head sevral time before.and also
i did cast,sculputure,mold making,hot form process also injury simulation etc. i learned from books & tapes
i got lots of it.i did myself during 5years.
but i still don`t know manythings like multi-piece(just little things)
please don`t take me as a beginner.
anyway, i always appreciate to all friends who

FXMan
posted 01-10-2001 08:03 AM              
Well Blue, no-one knew what you knew or didn't know. Now we know. Nevertheless, I still say get Lee Baygan's book. It's the best book I know of that shows how to do the multi-piece makeup application. Further, as I also said, it would take WAY TOO MUCH explanation and space on this board to give you the details, even to someone who knows how to do a lot of this work. That's why I say check for the book. You MAY find it in the library perhaps. But it is one of the better books about doing exactly what you want to do.

Good luck.

FXMan

blue
posted 01-10-2001 08:58 PM              
quote:
Originally posted by FXMan:
Well Blue, no-one knew what you knew or didn't know. Now we know. Nevertheless, I still say get Lee Baygan's book. It's the best book I know of that shows how to do the multi-piece makeup application. Further, as I also said, it would take WAY TOO MUCH explanation and space on this board to give you the details, even to someone who knows how to do a lot of this work. That's why I say check for the book. You MAY find it in the library perhaps. But it is one of the better books about doing exactly what you want to do.

Good luck.

FXMan



how to order lee baygan`s book.
do you know site names to order it.
anyway your point is right, so i`m gona buy a that book,if it is great for multi-piece process & f/x make up.
thanks FX man .


quote:

I think you can order from Makeup Artists Magazine web site under the BOOKS link. Their site address is as follows:
http://www.makeupmag.com/

Hope this helps. IT IS a good book.

FXMan



[This message has been edited by FXMan (edited 01-10-2001).]

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