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Topic: TRV 103 with DV200 losing LOTS of frames
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NJRFilms
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posted 12-24-1999 06:15 PM
Im capturing video with a DV200 and a sony TRV 103 in Premiere... im pretty sure all settings are correct but im losing TONS of frames (1/6 frames are lost) whats up with this? Its all brand new and it SHOULD be working... |
NJRFilms
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posted 12-26-1999 09:07 AM
anyone? I just deleted everything and reinstalled and put the card in a dif PCI slot, and i still lose frames. I mean i captured 3000 frames and lost 1000 of them!!! |
Mr. Hutt
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posted 12-26-1999 02:38 PM
Have you called tech support for Pinnacle or Adobe? That's all I can think of. Oh wait, you know when the DV200 first scans the tape? Well, I think that there's a feature that makes it go back and rescan if there are any dropped frames. Maybe that'll help. |
NJRFilms
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posted 12-26-1999 03:45 PM
Well everything is closed.... yeah i thought there was a feature like that too... do you know where it is exactly? |
brandon8me
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posted 12-26-1999 06:00 PM
Whats your disk i/o like?
You need at least a 3mb per sec transfer rate to capture.
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NJRFilms
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posted 12-26-1999 06:18 PM
3.8 mbps |
brandon8me
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posted 12-26-1999 07:06 PM
Hmmmm. What system are you running?
Do you have Ultra DMA working or are you useing SCSI?
What did you use to test disk i/o?
Have you tried useing the included Capture tool instead of premeire. |
Webmaster Dale
Administrator
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posted 12-26-1999 07:08 PM
I don't have such a nice setup but here are some system maintainance tips: that might help...
- Don't be afraid to defrag your hard-drives
nice continious blocks will increase speed.
- Disable any un-needed resident programs such as a virus scanner as these can slow-down system operations.
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Good luck  [This message has been edited by Webmaster Dale (edited 12-26-1999).] |
NJRFilms
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posted 12-26-1999 07:41 PM
I used the capture thing that came with hte DV 200.
My computer is a dell dimension XPS t500, 256 ram, 22 gig hd, TNT2. I ctrl alt del everything but explorere and the capture program...
My write speed is 3.85 and read is 4.23.
I have a regular old crappy non SCSI hard drive. |
brandon8me
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posted 12-26-1999 09:01 PM
Are you using premeire to check disk i/o?
Can the benchmark program your using tell how much of the processor is being used for disk usage.
If not do a search on download.com for CLIbench. Try using that program to test disk speed. It should be 0 to 3 percent, if its up around 50% than Ultra DMA isnt on. It could mean your computer or HD is not capable of U-DMA. I dont think its posable to capture on IDE disks without Ultra DMA working. If your useing Win98 than DMA should work automaticly if the hardware is capable. If your running NT, than you need service pack 4 or 5 and you need to edit the registry and tell the system to use DMA.Also, are you just using 1 hard drive with 1 partition? Its ideal to have seperate drives, one for system, and one for capture, if not, at least use seperate partitions. |
NJRFilms
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posted 12-26-1999 09:30 PM
Ok from Cli Bench i get this from my C driveRead Max: 4063
Read Average 3849
Red min 3103
Write Max 3878
Write Average 3466
Write min 2392
CPU Usage 98%
Im looking right now on ebay for Scsi drives and its $3.50 for a 1.2 gig 5400 rpm.. so a 7200 couldnt be much more, i could caputre on the scsi and then transfer to the crappy one... but i need to edit like this week, so what can i do? I have a partition so ill run the tests on that now.
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NJRFilms
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posted 12-26-1999 09:34 PM
lol, my bad D: drive has Linux on it =), thats why it wouldnt test it! |
brandon8me
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posted 12-26-1999 10:36 PM
Are you running NT?
at 98%, UltraDMA is definatly not working.
Also how old is this 22 gig drive,
And your system.
If your hardware is relativly new it should be capable of uDMA.
You shouldn't have to bother with scsi, I do use a couple of scsi drives but I capture on two 13gig ide hard drives that I picked up for $120 each(there probably cheaper now).
One of them has Linux on it too :-) [This message has been edited by brandon8me (edited 12-26-1999).] |
brandon8me
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posted 12-26-1999 10:40 PM
Also take out any other ide devices on bus 0(or the bus your drive is on).
if another divice is not UDMA compatable it will not allow the other divice to use UDMA. |
NJRFilms
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posted 12-27-1999 08:16 AM
nope not running NT,
THe dell is pretty knew, i got it in june or july.
The hard drive is connected dirctly to the motherboard, withjust the HD on the ribbon cable (cdrom and floppy on the other ribbon)
So its pretty new, so there must jsut be somthig i need to turn on? BIOS maybe? I dont know, but please help! hehe, thanks |
NJRFilms
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posted 12-27-1999 08:18 AM
ALso when i bought my system a few weeks later my HD had a problem and Dell came over and gave me a new Hard drive... could they have given me a sh*tty one thinking I would not notice? |
NJRFilms
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posted 12-27-1999 08:22 AM
IM running Windows 98 second eddition if you need to knwo that.. |
NJRFilms
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posted 12-27-1999 09:56 AM
ARGGG! VideoGuys tech support was no help at all "you need a faster hard drive"
BLA! I think I am going to call Dell today, but I want to get as much info as I can... so keep your ideas coming, i really dont want to return this thing. |
brandon8me
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posted 12-27-1999 12:57 PM
Seeing as your computer is only 6 months old you hardware should be U-DMA friendly.
Go ahead and check the bios.
look for IDE DMA settings. make sure there atleast set to auto. I have an AWARD bios, its its on the bios features page in the lower right corner. theres five DMA settings, a global ON, and one for each IDE device. I have them all set to AUTO.As for Win98 I was under the impression that U-DMA would be detected automaticly and use.
try going here - to the bottom of the page, it has some info on telling windows to use DMA if it wont by default. http://www.peoriatrader.com/resource/livingston_udma_drives.html |
doom1701
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posted 12-27-1999 02:22 PM
One thing I haven't seen mentioned; are you using just one hard drive for both captures and all your software (even if you have multiple partitions on that one drive)? That's a big no-no. I've got two UDMA drives (well, 5, actually, but 4 of them are on a promise FastTrak). I can't capture worth crap on the C: drive because of the software and disk swapping going on.Your best option is to get yourself another drive. You've got a good controller (Dell has been using at least UDMA33 controllers; 66 on newer ones), so there's really no reason to buy a SCSI drive and controller. Now, before you freak, thinking you've got to get something 22GB or bigger (after all, who wants their video drive to be SMALLER than their system drive?), think about the process in reverse. You've already got a nice, big, fast drive you can use for video. Go out to Ebay and pick up a 6-10GB drive (doesn't even have to be UDMA, although that's always nice) for under $100, and use a disk imaging program (I use Ghost a lot) to move everything from the 22GB to the 6GB. Then wipe the 22GB and you'll probably have a drive that you won't lose any frames on. If a new disk just isn't an option (make it an option if at all possible), then go into the System icon in Control Panel, and turn your virtual memory off. Not really a good idea, but disk swapping (even with 256MB of RAM) is probably the chief offender during your captures.
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daa Productions Nobody lives forever, so you might as well go out with a good caffeine buzz... There's always hope, because it's the one thing that they haven't figured out how to kill yet... |
NJRFilms
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posted 12-27-1999 03:36 PM
Ok so go and buy a new hard drive, probably a 7200 rpm one, eh?
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doom1701
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posted 12-27-1999 03:58 PM
Actually, all mine are 5400 (on a Fasttrak, so my numbers are probably skewed slightly), and I get between 8 and 15MB per second.And, if you decided to go the inexpensive route and just get a small drive for your applications, it's not going to matter that much. ------------------
TL
daa Productions Nobody lives forever, so you might as well go out with a good caffeine buzz... There's always hope, because it's the one thing that they haven't figured out how to kill yet... |
NJRFilms
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posted 12-27-1999 05:26 PM
whats fasttrack or whatever... is it more, or what?? |
brandon8me
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posted 12-27-1999 07:21 PM
Fasttrack is an add on ide controller.
Getting another drive is going to be important, but it wont help untill you get Ultra DMA working. You'll know its working when the CPU usage go's way down. 98% is really bad, my drives average around 0% to 1% cpu usage. |
NJRFilms
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posted 12-27-1999 08:30 PM
I looked in my BIOS didnt see anything about DMA or UDMA or anything... looked in what seemed to be every option... |
brandon8me
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posted 12-27-1999 10:27 PM
Did you try going to Control Panels >
Device manager > and checking Enable DMA on your hard drive? Its in there some where but Im not sure exaclty where. |
NJRFilms
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posted 12-28-1999 07:18 AM
i dont see it anywhere |
NJRFilms
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posted 12-28-1999 10:01 PM
http://www.buy.com/clearance/product.asp?sku=70000458
check that out, someoen, and tell me if that would work for my hard drive... its 5400 RPM 10 gig, 11 meg write time. |
