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Topic: Is The Iomega BUZ Any good?
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Movie_Maker
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posted 02-02-2000 07:57 PM
I was just woundering if anyone has used or owns the iomega buz? I'm planning on buying it this weekend and want to know if its any good. Thanks |
103N
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posted 02-02-2000 08:22 PM
I have one, its ok but not great. Go with a DC10 plus if you can, it is better. |
NJRFilms
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posted 02-02-2000 08:30 PM
IOMEGA BUZ SUCKS ******* **** *** *********** ***** **** *****. DONT ****** get that piece of ******* ****. |
Movie_Maker
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posted 02-02-2000 10:52 PM
Is it easy to edit video clips, can you add credits, can you convert them to Quick Time Format? What programs come with it (I've Heard Adobe Premire 4.2) Any Info would help,Oh and Is it compatible with Studio DC10? (Sorry About all the questions but I would really like to know) |
Movie_Maker
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posted 02-02-2000 10:53 PM
Apparently NJRFilms Has had his share of problems..... |
funkymunkey
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posted 02-02-2000 11:04 PM
How much is the BUZ? Well, whatever the cost, it's a waste of money. For just $200 you can have the DC10+ which is compatable with Premiere (somewhat ). The DC10+ is the best card you can get for under $200 and it's worth every penny. Goto http://webboard.pinnaclesys.com/cgi-bin/ultimate.cgi (Pinnicle's DC10+ message board) to find out more. |
IR-Baboon
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posted 02-02-2000 11:04 PM
Good board for what it is... Dont expect it to be great though.. and to do anything more than grab thumbnails you will need a dedicated SCSSI hard drive to plug into it (But a dedicated drive is almost as nessasary as the video board itself).If you can get something better... You will have to get software... I dont remember seeingPremiere bundled with mine  it have a few small problems with Premiere... read all its bugs and flaws before you buy it at... http://www.trix.com/buz/faq.html It will be better to find out if it doesnt do something you want it to now before handing over your money. I am happy enough with mine but I will never use it for anythig serious... Ill be getrting a much better board for that. |
Movie_Maker
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posted 02-02-2000 11:11 PM
I'm not planning anything spectacular for it. I'm just trying to get something that I can edit my claymation video with, Then I'll upgrade to something better BTW What exactly does the DC10 Do? Is it just a video card? |
Movie_Maker
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posted 02-02-2000 11:14 PM
Oh and just what is the difference between hi8 and 8mm? Also, what is S-VHS? I'd like to know Thanks |
funkymunkey
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posted 02-02-2000 11:23 PM
Okay, the DC10+ is a capture card just like the BUZ (it's just better). It pops into a PCI slot and captures audio from your sound card. It's bunndled with Studio DC10+, a nice little program for simple editing, but no where close to Premiere.The difference between Hi8 and 8mm: Hi8 offers 400 lines of horizontal resolution, whereas 8mm offers up to 240 lines of horizontal resolution. That means Hi8 is better quality than 8mm (hence the name). If you buy a Hi8 camcorder you can record on both types of tapes, but if you buy an 8mm camcorder you can only record on 8mm tapes. That's why we say Hi8 is 8mm backcompatable. SVHS is very similar to Hi8 but it's the size of VHS tapes. SVHS is many used to master now because Prosumer SVHS camera's are being pushed aside by MiniDV. |
Movie_Maker
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posted 02-02-2000 11:47 PM
Oh....one more question, the buz actully has a slot that I can hook the cords from my camera onto, does DC10 include something like this? Something that can actully plug into the camera and connect to the computer? If not how would you get video onto the computer? |
videoman1
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posted 02-03-2000 06:17 AM
The Buz is pretty nice. The good- You can get one for only $100 so it's one of the cheapest you can get. Yes, it has cords to connect it to your cameracorder. It comes with a cheap little video editer. The bad- The format that it uses is a BUMMER!! It's forever preforming illegal operations and locking my machine up. ERG!! That's the only big down I can thing of but it's a major one.It has definitly been worth my money but I'm going to get a higher ender as soon as I can. |
BiffCliff
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posted 02-03-2000 09:32 AM
Buz beware. Check if it supported by Iomega I believe they don't make it for PC's anymore. The DC10 (which I own) is greatly supported. Check out the pinnacle site. They have many options and a questionaire that will help you decide what product may be best for your type of application. Good luck but please be VERY VERY careful if you are going to choose BUZ.Good luck and have fun. |
videoman1
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posted 02-03-2000 09:40 AM
I'm wondering something. How come all you guys have that "Trial Member" thing next to your name. I never had that. Does that mean you really new? |
Coleman
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posted 02-03-2000 01:44 PM
Yes, I'm new. I have the DC10+ and I think it is the way to go if you want a good cheap capture card. You don't have to get a SCCSI hard drive-very expensive- for it to work well. It also comes with Studio a very easy to use software program great for beginners. I recently got Media Studio Pro which can do many special effects and overlays. It works well with Studio DC10+ I've had very limited luck with Premiere but others have made it work. It crashed too much. The above mentioned webboard will really help you out if you get stuck. Coleman |
Feederbird
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posted 02-03-2000 03:08 PM
I have it for the mac, it works ok. I am happy with it except for a small problem with it's S-video input. I haven't figured out if it is a problem with just my unit or a problem with the design.All in all I do like it. They have stopped making it for the PC and tech support is limitten to the softwear that it comes with. Premiere 4.2 ( I think ) SO 5.x users your on your own. |
NJRFilms
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posted 02-03-2000 03:17 PM
the buz sucks, i still have mine and i will sell you it, hehe. It really is bad. It only works on certin systems, and those that it does work on it will not be happy. Save your money for another month and by somthing better |
Movie_Maker
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posted 02-03-2000 05:28 PM
The buz has an actual box that you can plug cords into, does DC10 have something that you can plug cords into? |
mxpx_99
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posted 02-03-2000 05:56 PM
yup....dc10+ has plug slots...uhh a video in, video out and maybe something else but i dont wanna drag it out and look at the bakk of my computer...hehe |
Movie_Maker
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posted 02-03-2000 06:04 PM
Really.....Great then thats what I'll buy instead of the iomega, what does DC10 Come with (Editing Programs) ? |
NJRFilms
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posted 02-03-2000 06:05 PM
I dont not have that card, but what you want to know is if it has a breakout box. That is what those "things" with those "ports" are called, hehe. And good luck getting a capture card. Im not sure if anyone has said it yet but www.videoguys.com is a great resource of capture card shopping. As far as i can tell they have the best price (i found 1 crappy company in New York that was 5 bucks cheaper but didnt have the warntey, support and good name like video guys.) |
Gazorra
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posted 02-03-2000 06:41 PM
I have a Buz. Its allright. Just not... adviceable.[This message has been edited by Gazorra (edited 02-03-2000).] |
funkymunkey
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posted 02-03-2000 08:19 PM
The DC10+ includes an editing program called "Studio DC10+." It's very easy to use for simple editing. Everything you need is contained in the Studio, capture, transitions, titles, output, ect. It's nothing compared to Premiere, but it works much more smoothly with the DC10+ than Premiere. |
Dale Jenner
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posted 02-03-2000 09:24 PM
While we are on the subject of capture cards, what is the ATI All-in-wonder or Matrox Marvel 400 like? they are both cheaper than the DC10 is.Thanks Dale Jenner |
rfrancis
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posted 02-03-2000 10:29 PM
K. Let's get this part straight. The BUZ is actually a very good card/breakout box. The problem is, Iomega dumped it before making decent drivers for it. It has the same Zoran chip as most of the other higher end more expensive models, just Iomega didn't do as well as they thought they would financially and dumped it and the support before losing money. (hmmm they seem to do that alot) Anyways, if you can get it to work then it works fine for amature productions but I would invest in a DC30 or better if you plan to do pro work (You pay about 700 bucks for the DC30 but over 500 of that is for the full version of premiere 5.1)Cheers |
Norair
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posted 02-04-2000 11:06 PM
Since you are interested in the "Buz" you obviously have a G3 Macintosh. (either that or iomega is lying about not producing a PC version of their Buz). I don't belive that the DC10 is an option, because i don't think there is one for the mac.You might want to try the Aurora Fuse: www.auroradsgn.com It's $500, but apparently it is the best value on the market, and it can work fine with an ultra-dma drive. Every review I've seen of it is great. It also comes with Strata VideoShop 4.5 or Adobe Premiere 5.1. (Go with Strata). Aurora also makes a higer end "Ignite," in case your interested. But it costs $1300, and the Fuse is great: Much better than the DC30+ or Pro. |
TheRookie
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posted 02-05-2000 08:15 PM
The Buzz is ok when you can get it to work. However Iomega is a horrible company!! Their support is horrible and the support for the product didnt last to long. Secondly I couldnt get the Buzz to work with my new video card. I just use it now for the SCSCI controller for my CDR. If you want advice got to www.videoguys.com. You can compare all kinds of cards and sofware packages |
Movie_Maker
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posted 02-05-2000 08:27 PM
I went to the computer shop and I think I'll get Studio 400, it is any good? |
Dale Jenner
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posted 02-05-2000 08:37 PM
So far as i know, the studio 400 isnt actually a video capture device, it is just a device that controls your VCR's to do the edit and lets you put titles on. It doesnt actually capture (at least it didnt) the video it records the time code from your tape.Dale Jenner |
funkymunkey
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posted 02-05-2000 09:32 PM
I've never had any experience with the 400, but from what I know Dale is right. The 400 is an offline editing controller. It will digitalize your video as a rough cut (one hour of video = 150 megs). Then you make an edit decision list with its supplied editing program. When you output, the card directly controls your camera and your VCR, digitalizing only transitions. Considering the DC10+ is only about $70 more than the 400, I'd say buy the DC10+. |