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Topic: Videocards
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Tone
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posted 01-31-2000 12:55 AM
I dont have any editing equipment yet but my friend can get photoshop and premier and its free so its sounds good to me, but what video card should I get. I dont have much money to work with right now so something inexpensive would be best. Also where is it available.------------------
ajbolander@netscape.net [This message has been edited by Tone (edited 02-02-2000).] |
Tone
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posted 01-31-2000 01:00 AM
I dont know the difference between 2 and 3D[This message has been edited by Tone (edited 02-02-2000).] |
Tn
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posted 01-31-2000 02:38 AM
Do you want a regular 2d/3d video card or a capture card? |
Tone
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posted 02-02-2000 06:25 PM
Whats a capture card? I haven't worked with anything yet. Just getting started.------------------
ajbolander@netscape.net |
NJRFilms
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posted 02-02-2000 06:34 PM
If you dont know the difference between 2d and 3d, you have not taken 9th grade geometry, have never played a comptuer and have never read a magazeen about computers. If this is the case NLE and computer genereate effects, ect, is not for you. Search the web for video editing and stuff instead of asking here, all that info is very easily obtained on the web using www.yahoo.com www.northernlights.com and best of all www.google.com |
Magnus
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posted 02-02-2000 07:41 PM
I know this is kinda off the subject, but it does have to do with editors. Does anyone know anything about turnkey systems? |
Tone
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posted 02-02-2000 10:37 PM
Listen dick(NJR)- I know the difference between 2D and 3D. I have not yet usen any editing equipment. Therefore I don't know the capabilities of each card or program. I ask a question for help not to be made fun of or some stupid sarcastic comment or answer. Once I use something I learn it. I'm not a idiot, I just have used anything yet. So next time before you judge someone you don't know and haven't even seen for that matter, take time to understand their point. Sorry if I offended anyone other than NJR. ------------------
ajbolander@netscape.net |
funkymunkey
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posted 02-02-2000 10:59 PM
Listen Trial Member(Tone), don't come in here and talk to Members (esp. NJR) like that. I think he offered you some valuable advice and if he had to use a little bit of sarcasm, so what? Get over it. Do a little research on the web, then get back to us. We're not going to explain everything to you when there are place on the net that already do that (sometimes better than us). You just have to get up off your ass and do it. Sorry if I'm being a bit harsh, but someday you'll understand. |
Tone
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posted 02-02-2000 11:22 PM
Why does webmaster dale offer this page?, Because it's a resource. He's doing us a favor. I post here Because it's a lot easier than surfing around for hours. I leave a post so people can be helpful if they want. I'm not asking everyone to reply or anyone really. If they want to they can, so if you dont care to reply then don't(as you did anyways, I have know idea why?). I just ask a simple question and somebody has to say something stupid. For no reson at all. I'm not posting here to get into on going argueements, so if anyone would like to answer my questions. I would appreciate it.------------------
ajbolander@netscape.net |
KEVIN007
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posted 02-03-2000 03:17 PM
Hey NJR and Funkymonkey...just lay off...the kid just wants to know the capiblities of both...i mean if the one is more money he would like to know what difference would really be...i mean 3d doesn't pop out of the computer...so he was just looking for some details from people that have expereniced the difference...that is all...i mean if you are going to say something negative than just don't waster your time...it doesn't help anyoneRE: tone, it might be better if you researched a little more, before asking question that these guys don't have the time for...try about.com it might help ------------------
"I love the smell of napalm in the morning...it smells like victory!" Apocalypse Now (1979) |
KEVIN007
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posted 02-03-2000 03:30 PM
Here i found this in 30 seconds on http://about.com After the bottom Tier of so-called 3D cards, come the money conscious cards like Hercules' Thriller 3D, Diamond stealth 220's and a few others. These are great cards for anyone with a Socket 7 CPU (Pentium Class). The 3D quality on these is actually very good, but the speeds don't scale well when you start using P2s, and the 2D is not as fast as some of the others. The Riva128 is another card for those of you who are money minded, and don't want to sacrifice a lot of speed wiuth a faster CPU. The Riva128 cards retail for less then $150, and include some of the best 2D available, while showing off some very impressive 3D. This card will support any game that supports Direct3D, as well as OpenGL. This includes Quake and Quake2. As far as Direct3D goes, the Riva128 is the fastest you can get on a 2D-3D card, and even beats out the 3dfx Voodoo chipset. Unfortunately, you will sacrifice in the way of visual quality. Another All-in-one card is Jazz Multimedia's Adrenaline Rush, or California Graphic's Emotion 3D. These cards come with a chipset from 3DFX called "Voodoo Rush". They have been through plenty of problems in regards to speed and compatibility, but with newer driver releases, they have no become as good as they should have been when released. The 2D on these cards is powered by the Alliance AT25 chipset, and is faster than your average 2D card, and certainly adequate for gaming. The 3D, however, leaves something to be desired. Speeds are slightly slower than the NVidia, but keeping in 3DFX's tradition, the image quality is superb. And the one other added feature is that you can have 3D in a window. Although this is not a widely supported feature, it would allow for multiple cockpit views in flight sims or racing games, which could mix 3d and 2d, or just have windowed 3D views. By the time there are serious games supporting 3D in a window, however, the 3DFX Banshee will be out, and be far faster, and look even better
There was alot more...
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"I love the smell of napalm in the morning...it smells like victory!" Apocalypse Now (1979) |
NJRFilms
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posted 02-03-2000 03:31 PM
It is very apparent that Funkey has been on the net for a while. You see the internet is a huge resource, and the info is usalyl there. People get pissed when you go on a board, newgroup, IRC room, whatever and ask a question that could be VERY easily anwsered by getting of your ass and searching. Its so anyoying when people post without serching the net, reading a book,etc. Usally posting is a last resort type thing.
And also, tone you said "I dont know the difference between 2 and 3D". Then in another post you say you do. To me it seems like you do not know what the difference is.
Next, dont come in here and call a member a "dick". I had a lot of helpful information for a computer newbe like your self. A smart person would thank me for that info, use it, and come back asking a question that you cant really find by searching an engine (its there, just today search engines wouldnt be much help). There is no reason to come in here and make enemies. Everyone in here is very friendly. We dont need people who call names, etc.
A video card is what would have 3d. It is what makes things appear in 3 deminsons (notice appear, its a simulated 3d. A true 3d monitor is in the works and should be out sometime next year, costing 2-3,000 bucks).
ANyway im not going to explain 3d excelleration and stuff like that because thats so off topic and again use the search engines i posted and you can find information about it very easily.
And kevin: Funky and I shouldnt have to lay off. HE should. |
Tone
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posted 02-03-2000 06:05 PM
Thank you for the info NJR and Kevin. I'm sorry for calling you a dick, but I dont know why you had to make a stupid remark. I know the difference between 2D and 3D. What I dont know is what the benifits of having one or the other(for editing). I will probably be using adobe premier and I also need to know what is compatable. I heard dc-10 or something like that was a good buy? As for surfing the net, This is a lot eaiser for me, other than spending a lot more time surfing for something I know nothing about. I can just check my replys once a day. I'm not in a real big hurry and I like to know what the people that own the produce think or what people have heard or read. If it is anyoying to you then simply dont reply. So if you would please reply only if you are going helpful. Thank you Tone------------------
ajbolander@netscape.net |
SirGahrjyn
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posted 02-03-2000 07:07 PM
You will need a capture device to capture the film to your computer. What I am looking into is http://www.digitalorigin.com/products/introdv/default.html
It seems pretty cool and the software that comes with it is upgradable. I am using a digital camera so if you are inputing analog
which is that from a vcr or vhs camcorder u may wanna check out http://www.pinnaclesys.com/studio/PCTV/
its around $80 depending on which studio product suits u best. But thats the biggest thing getting it to your pc you can't just hook into the comp and use one of your programs to see the video you have to capture the video with a capture device. Its harder with DV since you have to have drivers and stuff to where vhs is standard. I am just learning about all this so I am just telling you what I am learning. I have the JVC GR-DV3u digital camcorder. Its cool. |
Tone
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posted 02-04-2000 09:49 AM
I have a Sharp viewcam HI-8, Ok for $500 I guess. So I don't need digital. I looking for something around $200, Something that will do the job but is still quality but not real fancy. I'll check out the sites you posted. Thanks Tone------------------
ajbolander@netscape.net |
funkymunkey
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posted 02-04-2000 05:23 PM
Get the DC10+ from Pinnacle. It's the best card for $200. Composite and S-Video capture and output. It comes with a simple editing program called "Studio DC10+." It's great for simple cuts, transitions, and titles, plus it's very easy to learn. However, if you want more power, the DC10+ will work with Premiere (you have to do a bit of work though). I have the card and think it's worth every penny. Good luck starting video editing.  |
Micah
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posted 02-04-2000 06:22 PM
Hahahahahaha
On the next storyboard WAR! The Members!
VS.
The Trial Members! T. Member walks into the ring and takes a blow from a member. T. Member strikes back!
____________________________ Okay now all of this is BS you guys have no control of your tempers and you take insults way to seriously. Relax dudes!
____________________________ And it ends in a draw when they realize how immature they both acted. I'm not insulting you guys I'm just saying thats what it looked like from the outside. Micah
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" If the milk turns out
to be sour, I ain't the
kinda pussy to drink it.
Know what I mean? "
Lock, Stock and 2 smoking barrels.
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Tone
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posted 02-06-2000 07:16 PM
Where can I get DC-10 at? I looked for it at some local stores. I think it's sounds like a pretty good deal also if it is compatable with premire, because I can get that for free from a friend. Thanks I think I'll end up buying that.------------------
ajbolander@netscape.net |
NJRFilms
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posted 02-06-2000 07:23 PM
Do you have a camera with firewire? If so then you might want to consider getting a DV200. Its better quality (full screen video at 720 x 480), and you will get an exact copy of your movie and will not lose a single frame. Its a great card.
Either way you go i would buy it at www.videoguys.com,
they rule! |
funkymunkey
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posted 02-06-2000 08:24 PM
I got my DC10+ at http://www.erwincomputers.com . At the time they were having a promotion and I got it for $170. I was definitely satified, so keep an eye out for similar offers. |
Tone
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posted 02-06-2000 08:25 PM
I don't think I have firewire. It's just a cheap camera. I do have s-video output however. I'll take a look at that site. Thanks guys.------------------
ajbolander@netscape.net |
WEB CYAN
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posted 02-06-2000 08:32 PM
that lil board war was pretty funny.Dont worry tone, when I first came here NJR told me to go read a book, and stop whinning to all of us experts in the field. He can be a bit sarcastic somtimes, just come uip with something back without sounding dumb.
i dont think I said all that right, oh well.
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NJRFilms
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posted 02-06-2000 10:05 PM
heheheehehehehe =)
Im a sarcastic mo fo!!!
DId i really? What was your post about? I probably told you to chekc the archives too, eh?
hehe
And wheres your matrix test! Its like 2 months late now. |
KEVIN007
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posted 02-09-2000 03:08 PM
whatever you do it is not a good idea to buy dazzle i just got dazzle for 250 and the feedback back to a tape..sucks the audio is all warped and the picture...well it is to blouching
The only good thing is that the stuff is easy to capture on your computer so if you have a cd writer the it is not to bad other wise it sucks.
i don't know it could just be my computer faults though...------------------
"I love the smell of napalm in the morning...it smells like victory!" Apocalypse Now (1979) |
