"The Exodous Project" Begins

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Exodous Project
posted 06-30-2000 01:03 AM           
I am starting creation of (yet another) Star Wars Fight sceene, which is not only going to be highly realistic (hopfuly) but also It will have a prologue of about an hour, on how the film was made, from start to finish. Anyone interested in helping me with Ideas on anything which yould make this film as realistic as posible, please let me know.

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The Exodous Project
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MetalWarrior
posted 06-30-2000 12:56 PM           
Costumes and set. Get those right, and it will add a ton of realism.

Good acting helps too. :-)

Film Boy
posted 06-30-2000 02:37 PM           
Yeah. Your actors have to be totally into it.
Thats one of the most common problems I see in fights. They're just getting the sticks from point A to point B. Have them get their whole bodies into it.
Also it's always good to have a couple of punches or kicks.

[This message has been edited by Film Boy (edited 06-30-2000).]

Exodous Project
posted 07-01-2000 03:10 AM           
Actors are not a problem, I have over 20 people who are dedicated, as well as 5 people who will begin training for the saber sequence, Th worst part I think will be the costuming of about 20 people, because they have to look the part. I am taking frightening a guess on my budget!!!

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The Exodous Project
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Film Boy
posted 07-01-2000 01:58 PM           
If your camera is locked down for the shots with a lot of people you could split screen in different people wearing the same old costumes.

KainVI
posted 07-01-2000 03:34 PM           
I think that's more trouble than it's worth =P

MetalWarrior
posted 07-01-2000 10:23 PM           
Yeah... that'd be quite a bit of work indeed.

I did a short StarWars movie (bout ten minutes, including opening crawl and end credits), and the costumes didn't cost us that much. Of course, we only had to pay for one Jedi's and one Sith's robe. :-)

We had 4 actors: 2 Jedi, 2 Sith. One of our actors owned a brown bathrobe (looked almost perfect), we had two pair of khaki pants, plenty of boots, two pair of black pants, and two black shirts and two white shirts. For the one Jedi's "over shirt tunic thing" we used an old towel (cut a hole for the head, draped it over him, and put a belt around him. For one of the belts we actually used the toy replica you can buy. For the other belt we just used some cloth. A friend of ours lent us a black tunic thingy he'd worn in a play, and we made the other one from some cloth. (With some help from mom :-) The other Jedi's robe was actually just a piece of brown cloth draped over his shoulders, which was very convincing for the short time he had to wear it.


So be creative. Find out what kind of clothes all your actors have, and get cheap fabric and someone who can sew for whatever they don't.

Exodous Project
posted 07-02-2000 10:52 PM           
I'll Give you all some idea on the costuming needed, just incase you have any sugestions
3x Jedi cloak Brown 2xjeditunicsash black
2X Jedi cloak Black
3x Jedi tunic white
3x jedi belts
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20x whatever costume design for troops

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The Exodous Project
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Exodous Project
posted 07-02-2000 10:54 PM           
also before this gets too much out of the trailer league, has anybody tryed to purchace sabers from parks sabers? if they have let me know by email please

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MetalWarrior
posted 07-04-2000 10:39 AM           
No, but I've constructed my own lightsabers. Pretty cheap too, but they looked good. :-)

Exodous Project
posted 07-05-2000 03:23 AM           
If you could send us some pictures or somthing that would be great! :0Þ
Are they custom and not just replicas¿¿¿
If they are and they look impresive, then i'll make you, my new best friend!

KainVI
posted 07-05-2000 08:59 AM           
there was a site that tells you how to make custom made lightsabers by using products found in home depot. Unfortunately the site's down. But yeah, it would be a lot cheaper to just make your own lightsaber. Plus, you can add your special touch to it.

Exodous Project
posted 07-05-2000 09:05 AM           
I have seen a lot of do it your self web sights but they are all mainly designed around the graflex sabers, or the Ep 1 sabers. I love the work done by Jeff Parks from www.parksabers.com but I cant contact him cause i live in Australia. I have this question up in another forum but if anybody knows of his email address, please let me know

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MetalWarrior
posted 07-06-2000 04:15 PM           
Well, I don't have any pictures, but I can describe how we made them.

We took copper pipe (we just had some lying around the house, and it happened to be the perfect radius :-) and cut off 11 to 12 inch sections. For some of them we cut one end diagonally (because it looks cool :-). We painted these black or silver.

For a grip, we took Nerf arrows, cut off the hollow part, painted it black or silver, and stuck it on the copper pipe. These turned out to be so-so, as the paint rubbed off after a day's use. I've since seen on web sites that you can use windshield wipers as grips... it sounds interesting :-)

The last thing we did was add extra metal parts we had lying around the house. On a couple of them, we put those metal... well, I'm not sure what they're called. They're used to fasten hoses together or something, they're basically like a metal ribbon that tightens with a screw. We stuck those on the diagonal ones, just under the lip. Looked cool. We used whatever was handy for a power switch, and just glued it right on to the handle.


Basically, we improvised. :-) I think they looked pretty darn good, if I do say so myself. And they were FREE. All just stuff we had in the basement. :-)

gungho
posted 07-06-2000 06:33 PM           
how do you get 20 people? I can't get 4 at one time!

Exodous Project
posted 07-06-2000 11:20 PM           
I may have to improvise with the sabers but i am not going to give up on Jeff Parks. My problem is that there will be closeup shots of the sabers and if you have ever seen the custom ones that he offers, well you would know what I mean.

Oh and the trick to getting 20 people involved at once is to just tell them that your shooting a movie and that they get to hold a cool gun and blow things up.
As childish as this sounds it works 99% of the time! Save the realy dedicated ones for either real charactor roles or saber fights, as they don't mind as much if someone hits them with a really big stick!

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The Exodous Project
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MetalWarrior
posted 07-07-2000 02:15 PM           
Ours looked good close up. :-)

But yes, I've seen ParksSabers, and they are definitely better then any custom made ones. Unfortunately, if I remember correctly, they are also extremely expensive. We were mainly concerned with keeping the cost down on our project.

Exodous Project
posted 07-10-2000 08:09 AM           
I looked into Parks Sabers (for anyone who is interested) I found that the best sabers are the non functional handles priced around $85us or $135us for a double edged.
These look awesome by themselves and If you wish to go for the custom look to the sabers, then u can easaly modify them. But for this reason, I would choose to stay well clear of the replica props. Everyone has seen the graflex before and they are impractical in the way of fighting and needlessly expensive.

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The Exodous Project
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Furore
posted 07-10-2000 05:22 PM           
quote:
Originally posted by Exodous Project:
Anyone interested in helping me with Ideas on anything which yould make this film as realistic as posible, please let me know.


Use real lightsabers!

Exodous Project
posted 07-10-2000 10:58 PM           
Not sure what that post ment??? If you are talking about REAL sabers, then you need to do a bit more reading!!

If you are confused by what i said in my last post, let me clarify.
Replica sabers are sabers out of the movies, ie EP I, IV, V and VI because it is not authenic for a project. While it is nice to have these for collection, they do pose a problem (by this i mean IV,V,I sabers) when it comes to producing quality fight scenes as graflex sabers lack sutable grip and are awkwardly contoured for fast action.

Parks Sabers hold a highly profesional look but they come in all varities (including replicas) that are working or non working. Working ones usualy consist of a plasma blade, an non working ones don't. While plasma blades are cool things, they are not right for profesional films. Thuss the reason why we rotoscope our sabers.

But this argument is going outside the realm of this forum topic. I hope this cleared you up, and if not, exactly what was the last posting about then???

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The Exodous Project
Dream, Vision, Reality

[This message has been edited by Exodous Project (edited 07-10-2000).]

gungho
posted 07-11-2000 02:54 AM           
when i have a lot of money i will have 20 people at once. oh and I'll capture it on video too.

Infiniti
posted 07-13-2000 05:44 AM           
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Not funny.

[This message has been edited by Jeff F (edited 07-22-2000).]

Infiniti
posted 07-13-2000 05:46 AM           
Just kidding. Seriously, it sounds like a promising project, but lightsabers area really, really overdone, and I wish they would burn. =\ Nothing personal, man. Keep workin'.

Exodous Project
posted 07-13-2000 05:53 AM           
Okay...... fair enough.
But when they are done properly no doubt it will look great.

However That is not the main focus of the film!!! While it may be the finished product, the aim is to present the making of this film in detail. But it has to look profesional!!!!

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The Exodous Project
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zombie84
posted 07-13-2000 07:39 PM           
hey,EXODUS PROJECT sounds very interesting.i'll watch for it when its out(which probably wont be for a while).
but anywayif you want to make it as realistic or professional looking as possible its 5 things:lighting(important!!),costumes,sets, and actors,and post-production work.
atmosphere created through lighting is what seperates professional looking films from amature looking films. set detail is important too.tr not to be constrained to just one room or building, as it will add a great deal of scope to the project.try to use location shooting whenever possible.costumes and props are important too for star wars films,but that was already covered.you also need good actors.the more the better.it just brings a movie down when its the same 3 people throughout the whole thing, but you seem to have gottne around thsi with 20 ppl,which is a big plus.
but post-production is where it starts to look like a movie.you edit,add filters,extend sets,score the film etc.music is a must.try filming a lot of location stuff and then extend/add/tweak with CG.

Exodous Project
posted 07-13-2000 10:25 PM           
Thanks for that.

My challange now, cause we are only in pre-produciton is to get everything togeather and workout what is available. I have acess to a sound and movie studio, for all the profesional indoor shots, and I have a request for 3D animaters floating around some other forums (that request is open here to). I am off to purchace material tomorow for the Sith costume, and I have a saber incomming from Parks Sabers (thank god).

What else asside from script should I be looking for now???

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The Exodous Project
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Exodous Project
posted 07-15-2000 04:29 AM           
I have made the decision to turn this into an open international project, so anyone wishing to contribute ANYTHING, let me know and we can arange somthing. By this I mean 3D, Sound etc etc

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The Exodous Project
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gungho
posted 07-16-2000 01:46 AM           
how much money are you guessing this will cost? and how did you get a studio?

Exodous Project
posted 07-16-2000 02:09 AM           
The studio's are not a problem for me. I can use a near buy media school's studio as I know the head master, and I am good friends with someone who owns a sound studio, so that isn't the prob. However money is, so everyone who wishes to be in the film, will pay for their own costumes.

I do want this to be good, so I need to work out how I can utilise all my resources. You guys are all welcome to participate if you wish.

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The Exodous Project
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Exodous Project
posted 07-22-2000 12:22 AM           
Sorry, I have been busy for a while.

I hope to get a test fight up for viewing and nit picking soon. I am taking my time, because I would like it to be complementing the movie in quality.

If anyone is interested in being a part of this fan film feel free to let me know, becaust It will be somthing huge if i can get some more people involved

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The Exodous Project
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Exodous Project
posted 08-03-2000 11:23 PM           
The Film is now part of Tales From The Holocron. This is a combination of fan films that are put togeather by different people but told as one continuing story. Check it out at www.chocolatecraving.com

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The Exodous Project
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[This message has been edited by Exodous Project (edited 08-14-2000).]

DackL
posted 08-08-2000 07:31 PM           
uhm, I fail to see what Chocolate Cravings has to do with Tales from the Holocron. Am I just stupid or do other people fail to see the connection?

Exodous Project
posted 08-08-2000 08:39 PM           
Ha thats what I thought, but don't argue thats where it is......... go figure

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Red Five
posted 08-11-2000 02:47 PM           
Personally, I want a direct link or I won't bother. I've got better things to do than search through a chocolate shop for a video clip (sounds like the lost chapter of Willy Wonka).

Exodous Project
posted 08-14-2000 02:05 AM           
Ohhhh, opps i fixes it and lost the s in the URL, it'l work now.

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multimedia light & magic
posted 08-14-2000 09:09 AM           
ok, if anyone cares about it, i made 3 different lightsabers for my star wars movie. 1 for obi wan
1 for anakin
1 for my dark jedi (double bladed)

these are the sturdiest, most durable sabers i have ever seen, which my uncle helped me make.

i am serious, one of my actors and i accidently swung at each other's sword and they smashed pretty freakin hard! not one dent. and they actually look light saber handles too, that the sweet part, easy to edit too.
total cost? i'd say around 10 dollars or so for the regular sabers. if you want to hear anymore, drop me a line at my email.

Mongoo
posted 08-15-2000 04:12 AM           
I don't get it. whats with the candy shop? Is there a movie or what?

Exodous Project
posted 08-15-2000 04:49 AM           
Darn, I thought I cahnged the URL

Try this www.chocolatecraving.com

(no candy store..... drop the plural)

there we go, PS i'll drop u a line MLM

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Exodous Project
posted 10-30-2000 03:02 AM           
Ok just an update on the progress of The Exodus Project.

The working title for the film is now just Exodus. It will begin shooting on the 11th of November 2000. It is curently going to be a series of installments which will accululate to one film.

It is costing an arm and a leg so far. I have had to test my resourcefullness to the brink and its starting to pay off. I have a crew of 6 which form the film group for Exodus and we have about 5 DVC's to play with . I have access to 2 sound studios and I have a CGI expert who is quite happy to do CG for me.

I have spent the last 5 months accumulating props and costumes. Also working out hitches like how in gods name to turn someone into and effective looking Twilek (long story).

But now Its starting to come togeather. I'll update this thread regularly and if u have any questions feel free to ask. (Got to finish my HSC Exams first)

Cya round people

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The Exodous Project
Dream, Vision, Reality

multimedia light & magic
posted 10-30-2000 06:51 AM           
how'd your sabers turn out ex?

Exodous Project
posted 10-31-2000 10:02 PM           
Well, thats an interesting story.


Actualy geting the handles has proved to be a fight to the death. The person who was making me a double edged saber has mysteriously left the country.???

I'll update in a few days

Wade
posted 11-03-2000 07:50 PM           
We have some affordable props we can make you..buy more than one and my buddy can probably work you out a deal....(this is mostly my friends site and idea) http://starwarsfanfilm.homestead.com/thepropshop.html

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Exodous Project
posted 11-04-2000 03:27 AM           
There are some realy nice designs there I have to say, but the focus at the moment is not exactly geting saber hilts togeather, but just geting the resources for the first scene.

The amount of fore planing that has gone into the first scene to be released is incredible, and at the moment, I have costumers working out designs, I have a Make up artist trying to feasably recreate a headpiece for a twilek and I have my consept designers working with me and I refer the designs to the CGI people.

I believe that if there are no major issues that are currently unforseen, then this should go very well.

I will post some of the cosept designs very soon.

Regards people

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Exodous Project
posted 11-13-2000 01:23 AM           
Ok

Work on Exodus is increasing fast now. I hope to have a website up as soon as all the costumes are made and our production pictures are compleated.....


more info soon

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FangsandFurF/X
posted 11-13-2000 07:31 PM           
The neat thing is that you live in a place that film makers travel 18 hours to get to. You have quite the location to shoot in. From the pictures I have seen there are alot of places that look like another planet.


Good luck! Let me know when it is finished. I would like to see it.

FangsandFurF/X
posted 11-16-2000 11:16 PM           
Just downloaded both clips from "The Holocron" I must say they look very impressive! I am dying to see the finished product. I was contacted by a couple of people in my area (Central Fla) who are doing a spoof of Star Wars to help them with costumes. I hope they change there focus towards a more serious film. I hope to start to do some effects on my PC in the near future. Mabye I can contribute an idea or two.
As I said before, I am looking forward to seeing it finished.

Exodous Project
posted 11-20-2000 09:02 PM           
Well the bigest thing about Exodus is that its not going to be looking at the friendly side of the starwars films.

The beginning of exodus is a cross between a Thriller and a Horror film, its been designed so as to provoke certian feelings, and its not ment to be pretty.

Its going to be laden with effects, thats for sure, but its going to look at the power of the Dark Side and how it effects and blinds those who are week of the mind.


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