A Fight for the Fatherland

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How do you think you would feel about war it you could view it from both sides?
"A fight for the Fatherland"
A movie that will change the way you look at warfare.
http://www.afight.cjb.net
http://www.eclipseproductions.cjb.net

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How do you think you would feel about war it you could view it from both sides?
"A fight for the Fatherland"
A movie that will change the way you look at warfare.

Where in B.C do you live??

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Have you ever seen a Hot dog stand?
I Know I have.

If you have to say something negative, do so in a considerate way.

Let's say that you watch someone's trailer and you absolutely hate it.

A) You decide to post: "Boy that sucked, reason A, reason B, reason C, opinion, opinion, opinion. I hated this hunk of junk, it is the worst thing I've ever seen." In doing so you have broken the civility rule, done no one any good, face sanctions, and if you insist on continuing this way will likely not remain as a member here. Fighting words and insults aren't constructive, helpful, or what these forums are for. If you enjoy flame wars, there are plenty of places on the web to behave that way.

B) You decide to post: "I'm sorry, but I didn't care for this at all. These are the things that bothered me: reason A, reason B, reason C, opinion, opinion, opinion. My feeling is that this could be improved by A, B, and C, you might consider D, E, and F." This is perfectly acceptable. When expressing an opinion realize that other people have feelings (even if you don't care for their work) and being brutal isn't being helpful. This is all it takes to be civil.

Those people who can't understand the difference between giving their viewpoint in a considerate manner and mercilessly slamming other people's work because they don't like it need to avoid this section of LAS. People who argue for "harshness" as some sort of virtue are in for a problem if they insist on spouting acrimonious opinions. Those who can't understand that there is an easily attainable middle ground between the extremes of attacking (with an excuse) and being a Mr. Rogers-like "Yes Man" need to mature a while before they try to "help" people. Don't cry to us that we only allow positive comments if you can't be considerate in expressing unfavorable opinions - we prefer our fiction in your scripts, not cluttering up the boards.

Why people whose critical faculties consist of merely the two extremes of "You Rule!" and "You Suck!" would imagine that their thoughts are of value to others is beyond me. And woe betide the fools who think that their opinions are necessarily right simply because they feel strongly about them - most of the world is unkind to the unrepentantly egocentric. Facts and opinions are two different beasts.

When I said that it was excellent?

When I said that I thought that he had a chance of being successful?

I'm also curious how you interpreted me stating my opinions as facts, when I said "I feel..." and "I think..." (before positive comments, at that) or "..I cannot agree."

Facts and opinions are without a doubt different beasts. A statement that is an presumption and one that is informed are different beasts, as well.

And if you interpreted "...that he unabashedly ripped off Terrance Malick" as an opinion stated as a fact, it's not. Eclipse admitted it himself (unabashedly, at that) the first time he posted the trailer.

My original statement holds steady: It's an excellent clip, providing you've never seen The Thin Red Line.

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My comments were spurred by Spacecowboy's statement.

Actually, as far as memory serves, you've always kept your opinions clear, reasonable, and non-offensive. However there are others here (and some who are gone ) who argue for harshness and outright rudeness in the name of opinion and "helping" others. If I thought your comments were excessive & rule breaking you would have recieved an email long before this. I guess placing my comment under yours may have made it look like I was referring to you, Horizons. Jeff F

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Thanks for the comments Space Cowboy....

See ya at the Oscars.

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Congratulations for your successes to date! Continuing to work hard will net you further progress. Don't forget that even legendary directors make flawed movies that people can level legitimate criticisms of (movies can be good without being perfect), and that it is a long, long, LONG way to the Oscars.

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Personally, I would've kept the $1,500 and spent a few months trying to find an original concept.

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Now that was rude. Hollywood producers look at movies as purely financial entities but most of the people here look at them as means of expression and tools for learning, regardless of their dreams of where they will eventually end up. Prizes, scholarships, awards, etc. are valuable for their recognition value, any dollar amounts are secondary at most.

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he he.

I am 17.

Eclipse, I believe, shouldn't fuel the situation with his bragging, either. It doesn't help anything. And I don't think referring to people on LAS as if they were on a separate level as you is very intelligent, and definitely not "civil".

BTW, Eclipse, what is "Check TV"? How long is your movie? How did you manage to spend $2000?

Our first full-length feature begins production this winter. I'm hoping it will do as well as your flick apparently has, although our budget is approximately $0.00. We'll just have to wait and see how it does. Good luck with your continued work.

I want to see your movie though. Or a new trailer or something.

in all my searches for canadian film schools, i never found that one, only the victoria film school.

i am curious ep, where did u dig up the 2000$?

The Victoria Motion picture school looks. ok. It is quite $$$$. I took a tour of the place and I was telling myself that I have better equipment in my ROOM!!!! I just took a tour of the Vancouver film school and it looks much better but it costs twice as much. I am going to go for one of the two full scholarships that they are offering. (fingers crossed)

I am running a:
AMD 700
256 RAM
2 20 gig 7200 HD's
Adobe Premiere
Adobe After Effects
Adobe Photoshop
An ATI All in Wonder 128 capture card (CRAP!!!!!!)
I need a new capture card sooooo bad. Other than that i am doing GReAt!

And you never answered my question... are you planning to put your movie on the web?

Most are better off going to Florida State for film school (one of the last that still get noticed), or simply going to any college for another degree, and then making a short movie that's really good, and getting a reputation as a good writer.