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Topic: body hits- iknow its been beaten to death
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RICKDIRE
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posted 12-01-2000 02:57 PM
Hey i know this topic has been beaten to death but none of the methods i've come across have worked very well, does any one have any ideas?------------------
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FilmWeapon
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posted 12-02-2000 11:44 AM
What exactly do you mean by body hits?------------------
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gore master
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posted 12-02-2000 09:40 PM
why haven't they worked? did you try the method only once not knowing every thing there is to know about it and claim it doesn't work because it failed the first time? |
Jeff F
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posted 12-03-2000 01:34 AM
Most of the methods you will find posted here have been used successfully in many films, some of them feature films. Some methods are tougher to get right than others, they may take some skill and experimentaion to achieve.The first time you try to make a multiple piece mold, cast a run of successful foam latex batches, make candy glass window panes, create a 3D CGI element and composite it seamlessly into live footage, and a host of other effects can fail repeatedly until you get the hang of them. Don't give up - pick out a method or two and experiment with them repeatedly until you start to get the kind of results that you want. If you have specific problems with a particular method, describe them clearly and in detail, and perhaps one of us can help. ------------------
Jeff F - Moderator
Magic and FX
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Sarge
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posted 12-26-2000 10:18 AM
Found an absolutely safe, completely easy and visually stimulating way to do body hits. Southern Ordinance... (don't know how to do a link. Maybe someone smarter than me can fix?)... makes a series of blowguns.
No, that has nothing to do with the hits.
But, for the lazy or breathing impaired, they also make... wait for it... an adaptor that takes 12g CO2 carts. The thing has o-rings, a trigger, everything. It fits into the end of the blowguns. Trust me, it's cool.
Here's what you do.
First of all, make a blood bag. I use plastic bags from the grocery, heat-sealed, with some fishtank tubing inserted and sealed into the bag. (The blood's inside already, by the way.)
Second, tape over the bag with duct tape, leaving a window for the blow-out.
Third, affix the pack to the actor, after the usual razoring of the clothing over the hit site, etc.
Fourth, hook the tubing to the CO2 device from SouOrd. You may need to use some step-down adaptors. Either that, or larger tubing. You can tape the smaller stuff to your actor. The larger stuff passes more gas to the blood bag. (Scatalogical and fart humor is OK here, isn't it?)
Fifth, roll camera. When the time comes for the hit, the actor (or FX dude) simply squeezes the trigger. CO2 races along the tubing, and the window in the bag blows out with a satisfying shower of blood. (Flesh and gory bits optional).
No squibs, no pyro, no need for lead plates and leather on the actors... nothing but safe, wonderful carnage... for the camera only.Sarge |
Jeff F
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posted 12-28-2000 01:35 AM
Thanks for the tip, Sarge.Southern Ordinance's web site can be found at:
http://www.southord.com/default.htm More specifically, the page mentioning this: http://www.southord.com/catalog.asp?cat=misc ------------------
Jeff F - Moderator
Magic and FX
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crazy lou
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posted 12-28-2000 01:56 AM
thanks for doing the digging for us jeff, i hadnt got a chance too myself...this is almost the same thing as those nike or reebok shoes that had a little pump, if i could've found one of those i would've gave it a shot...but those shoes are like what 10 years old? anyway, this is the kind of thing i've been looking for. nice and simple. l
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dss
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posted 12-28-2000 10:07 PM
Heh, I still have a CO2 pump for those shoes your talking about. Does anyone have any videos of this blowgun squib in action? I think LikeAStory should have a collection of squib videos, there are not that many out there.
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multimedia light & magic
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posted 12-31-2000 03:10 PM
nice, cheap and easy!
http://www.exposure.co.uk/eejit/blood/index.html or just use a squib. j/k! |
8ride
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posted 12-31-2000 06:11 PM
So if I was to get one of those airtanks from home depot what do I use as a valve to let the air out? Do I need an expensive solinoid setup? |
8ride
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posted 01-05-2001 06:51 PM
Well does anyone know what to use to let the air out of the tank? |
Wade
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posted 01-06-2001 12:03 AM
I would think you could just buy a valve while you're at Home Depot. Just take off the hose, tighten the valve on the outlet 'nipple', and put the hose on the valve.I don't have an air compressor, but I'm sure that's how you would do it.
As for how to use it....you'd get all your hoses and squibs and whatnot ready. Turn the compressor on. Let it build pressure..roll cameras...action! Have a grip turn the valve real fast and let the air go! POW! You have gore.
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Red Stranger
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posted 01-06-2001 12:42 PM
Just make sure that your actor's reaction time is in sync w/ everything else, otherwise it will look ****ty no matter how realistec the body hit effect is.
I hope that I have helped you.
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doom1701
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posted 01-15-2001 01:03 PM
8Ride, when I picked up my tank, I got a 20 ft length of hose and an accessory pack. The accessory pack included a blower (small handheld device with a trigger), and a hose adapter for the end of the blower. Get some small, clear tubing to hook up to the adapter, and you're set!------------------
TL
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Louis M
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posted 01-15-2001 01:57 PM
Yes, compression hits using Eejit's techniques works well, but two things are necessary to make the system work really well. First of all, you need to have a good sound with it . It needs to sound right and be at the same time. Secondly, use some good editing. It can look incredibly cool with amazing effects. Cool, my two cents, clank, clank.------------------
Louis Matthews
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Sloan
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posted 01-16-2001 08:17 PM
What's the best blood recipe to use for gunshot hits?I know there are tons of them.
I haven't tried them all but the most popualar one with the corn syrup stains and seems like it would be too sticky.
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8ride
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posted 01-16-2001 11:52 PM
Well thats good, I have a whole bunch of air compressor parts sitting in the garage. So funny enough I know exactly what your talking about. Now I just need an airtank (don't want to drag that 60 gallon tank/compressor unit around). What PSI are most hits done with? |
Sarge
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posted 02-07-2001 05:01 PM
We tried the weed sprayer, and it worked fine, but it was WAY bulky. And heavy. And hard to coordinate with the shooter. We've given some thought to having the SHOOTER control the trigger on the hit. You know, pull both triggers at the same time?Sarge |
