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Kurtzdr
posted 12-28-2000 04:29 PM              
I was going to buy PVC pipes to put on my set to look like old gas or water mains, but I was wondering what I could paint on it to make it look like old rusty pipes.

Would that rust paint work I think it's called rustolium?

cdolsen
posted 12-28-2000 04:36 PM              
under coat it in black, then paint over it in shades of brown. use flat auto spray paint, that way the motteling will be less even. have a real rusty pipe when you go to find out the browns to use. you could also use a sponging faux finish technique.

Kurtzdr
posted 12-28-2000 04:56 PM              
Would it still work if I don't paint it black if it's already black PVC.

Movieman21
posted 12-28-2000 05:09 PM              
Hehehe. You are just a little confused there. Rustolium is not a RUST COLORED paint, but in fact, it is a paint that is designed to PREVENT rust. It is a heavy laquer paint, that bonds to metal. It is supposed to be relatively weather resistant, and therefore preventing rusting and corrosion.

As far as your problem, there are several things you can do. I would start by painting all of the pipes a dark gray, so that they would resemble real pipes. I would say if using rustolium, then smoke gray would work well for this. To add the "rust" I agree with cdolsen. Sponge application is a very good idea. I would go with a dark redish brown coating. Make it heavier in some spots, and mkae it random where you concentrate the color. Then go over that with a orangey-brown color that is lighter than the red-brown. Sponge it over the red-brown in the same random manner.
After this is all done, stand back and look at your pipes. If they dont look rusty enough, repeat the process.

Another thing you could do, with the same paints, is:
After you paint the pipes gray, dip a large paintbrush in the red-brown paint. Then run the brush harsely and quickly over a piece of screen. This will create a spattered/speckled texture. Do this several times. Then when dry, go over it with the orange-brown using the ponge method.

Important - Do not use the Spray variety of paint directly. If you spray the pipes directly, you will get runs in the paint if you do not do it perfectly. If you have to use spray paint, then do it from a distance, so that the pipes only recieve a fine mist, or dusting of paint. If the paint gets thick enough to collect together and form drops or pools, then it will run, and ruin the effect.

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Erik S
posted 12-28-2000 07:13 PM              
Could you go to a junkyard or something to get actual "rusted pipes?" It may be cheaper than buying paint and PVC piping, plus you would have the real thing! I think that's what I would do.

8ride
posted 12-28-2000 08:40 PM              
I think the reason you'd use the black undercoat is to give it a rusty uneven texture. I remeber using cheap undercoat on the wheel wells of my truck. I sprayed it on to thick in one spot and it bubbled and looked like I just painted over rust. Definatly a good idea for texture. Just buy a can of cheap undercoat, the high quality stuff goes on too nicely.

crazy lou
posted 12-29-2000 02:09 AM              
after you get some paint on its its still wet, you could crush and sprinkle some corn flakes or something like that onto the wet paint, then spray over it to add some real texture....like real flakey rust

or mix them into a paint and spacle it onto the pipes play around with scrap to see how it works, also try different "flake materials" to see what works best


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cdolsen
posted 12-29-2000 02:05 PM              
The black is just for an undercoat color. if you're starting out with a black pipe then you dont have to paint it.

I have something different that i use. i have an old steam boiler in my house. every year i have to clean it, and the wet return out. i save the rust and when it setteles, after pouring off the water, i mix it with clear verathane. i uase this to create rusted hinges and metal work on period furnature. i still use black for an undercoat to simulate black-wrought-iron.

Kurtzdr
posted 12-29-2000 10:51 PM              
Thanks

Louis M
posted 01-16-2001 05:33 PM              
the monkey is funky! yeah, just go and get some old or jack some from your next door neighbors house.

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Wade
posted 01-16-2001 10:31 PM              
I don't know if this will work, but I read once that you can get regular steel pipe, available at most hardware stores, and let it sit in orange juice for a few days, or possibly weeks....I'm not sure.

It's supposed to rust/deteriorate it pretty good.....I guess from the citric acid in OJ...like I said, I'm not sure about it...

Sarge
posted 02-07-2001 05:03 PM              
Off the wall, but what would happen if you took some burnt umber or ochre pigment, mixed it with KY Jelly (water based) and just smeared it all around? When the water evaporated, you'd have kind of flaky rusty stuff left behind, wouldn't you?

Sarge

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