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Neo
posted 12-21-1999 12:25 AM              
I recently purchased a Unidirectional Dynamic Microphone. When I plug it into the mic jack on the camcorder I get some kind of feedback when I listen thourgh a pair of headphones. It kinda sounds like a humming noise and is pretty loud. Also the mic runs off the power of the camcorder and not a battery. Any help would be very nice, thanks.

ps: what mic should I have bought, mono or stereo ?

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schnarf283
posted 01-30-2000 09:33 PM              
I cant help you, but record it, and link to it so all of the sw fan film makers can use it.

Actor
posted 01-31-2000 01:58 AM              
Is the mike you bought specifically designed for your camcorder? If not then it may be miswired. Just because the connector fits does not mean that the wires are going to the right places.

Neo
posted 02-01-2000 10:38 PM              
I own a Sony DCR-TRV103, the mic im using is a JVC Dynamic Microphone model number MV-19. I've tried several other mics and the problem continues to happen. The odd thing is that sometimes the humming is there and other times it's not. If anybody has had any experiences like this please tell me how you went about fixing it, thank you.

Neo

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Windows 95: n. A set of 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell
for a 16 bit patch of an 8 bit operating system orginally coded
for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that
can't stand 1 bit of competition.
Buy a Mac and break the cycle.

AidanK
posted 02-01-2000 11:39 PM              
gound loop, methinks...or maybe phantom power troubles... make sure the mic is plugged in securely, and turn the input level down, if you can. Also check to be sure that the onboard mic of the camera is not on, as this may be a bit of the problem (depends on the wiring of the camera). What, if any, adapters are you using? Also, try to re-create the problem, i.e. what are you doing when it hums?

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Ohio
posted 02-01-2000 11:44 PM              
Trying to fix this can be a nightmare because it can occur anywhere along the signal path.

I'm assuming you're not using any adapters, transformers or mixers, but just going straight into the camera. The trick first is to figure out if the hum is caused by the...

1) microphone

2) headphones

3) headphone jack

4) mic jack

5) power supply (where you plug into the camera to power the mic)

6) cables.

Does the hum show up on playback? If not, then you may be looking at options 2 or 3. It's annoying, but not deadly.

If the hum does show up on playback, then you're probably looking at options 1, 4, 5 or 6. First, if at all possible, try a different cable.

If the hum is still there, plug everything in and power up. Does it still hum when you move the cable? If it cuts in and out, it might be the jack. If your camera has a stereo mini-jack, you've just run into the big problem with stereo-minis. They're fragile. Really fragile.

That's why you should plug in a short cable with a jack in wherever there's a stereo-mini (mic in and headphones, usually) and leave them there, attached to the camera body. If you wreck one, you can always replace it, whereas if you wreck the mini-jack on the camera needs to be fixed by a tech.

How about when you have the camera on battery power vs. plugged into the wall? If the hum goes away, there may be something funky with the power supply jack.

If after all this, it still shows up, it may very well be the mic jack.

If it's any of the jacks, you need to get a tech to repair it.

If you can plug the mic into anotehr camera with a similar power supply hook-up, try that. It may be the mic. If it is, return it ASAP and get another one.


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[This message has been edited by Ohio (edited 02-01-2000).]

Neo
posted 02-03-2000 01:13 AM              
I did a process of elimination, first trying the camcorder by plugging it into
a wall outlet, then using the battery. I tried this with two different
camcorders and the result was the same. When plugging it into the wall
outlet I got the hum and distortion. But when I used the battery it worked
fine. Thank goodness because I would have taken it to a Sony repair shop and
who knows when I would have gotten it back. The 3 out of the 4 locations I tried I got the hum, the place I didn't was a friends kitchen. I later found out that it had been recently remodeled and the same with the wiring, I wonder? I purchased a surge protector/noise filter but it didn't work, oh well. I would just like to take the
time to thank the members of this board. I have gotten so much information
and help it unbelievable. Every time I have a question I just ask. It's
really a great feeling to have someone help you out that you don't even
know. Once again thanks.

Derek

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Windows 95: n. A set of 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell
for a 16 bit patch of an 8 bit operating system orginally coded
for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that
can't stand 1 bit of competition.
Buy a Mac and break the cycle.

[This message has been edited by Neo (edited 02-03-2000).]

FXMan
posted 02-03-2000 07:54 AM              
Derek,

I'm by NO means an expert at this but I've done a fair amount of recording over the last 30 years using unidirectional, unpowered mikes. I've found that simple flourescent lighting can cause mike hum, or any kind of "machinery" that is in the vicinity - like the fridge, and such. Also sometimes other electronic equipment in the vicinity has often had some effect - like radios, stereo equipment and such EVEN when it's not in use but just plugged in. But it sounds like you've solved your problem. House current as a power source - bear in mind - has lots of stuff connected to it and can feed back through the wiring to create mike hum. At least that's what I've found. Also even holding a mike in your hand can cause the hum. Your body becomes the antenna and can pick up extraneous "noise" from a variety of sources not the least of which are (now) cellular phones, police radios and on and on. So much electronic, electrical stuff running anymore that you're always at risk of having interference. You can get some things that will ground anything that comes through. I have these "rings" of non conductive material for the Midi In and Out wires of my synthesizer that cut out any kind of interference and reduce all kinds of extraneous "noise". I don't know what they're made of but they REALLY help to cut out the sounds I don't want interfering.

Glad you got it worked out. GREAT answers to this question. Really helps to read this stuff. I'm always learning a lot.

Good luck.

FXMan

PyRoMoNkEy
posted 02-03-2000 11:18 PM              
This is sorta related to the topic:
What's a decent recording (portable) device that has audio out.

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