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SilverbladeX
posted 02-02-2000 06:05 PM              
Well again i'm asking for advise (told u i'd be on lots). Me and muy friends have come to the part of the movie where the setting is at midnight. Now because we will have to do many scenes over and over and it takes a lot of time, is there any way to make outside appear as night when it's day out? like is there some way to make it appear as night with just a noramal camera? no computer affets as i can't afford one of them cards

NJRFilms
posted 02-02-2000 06:57 PM              
Umm turn off the lgihts? Hehe. Is this out side? If so do it in your garage, then in post add a moon and osme crickets churping, etc. YOu could also export to filmstrip and use the photoshop darken feature and darken it, but the sun shouldnt be visable.

SilverbladeX
posted 02-02-2000 07:33 PM              
if i had a card i would but i an't afford one

jstern
posted 02-02-2000 07:59 PM              
Most camcorders come with some built in filters. You might try inverting the video.... but that would also make the actors faces messed up.

If you can get access to a computer, you can try superimposing the subject over some inverted video of the scenery.

Mr. Hutt
posted 02-02-2000 10:09 PM              
You could just film through a pair of blue tinted sunglasses. That might do the trick.

Skinned Fox
posted 02-03-2000 12:20 AM              
Day to night with a dark bluish lens filter is one of the simplest effects in the book. It is also incrdibly easy to fXXk up. I've seen it in movies with pretty big budgets. The latest Island of DR. Moreau -w- kilmer and Brando has a bad Day 2 Night scene.

1. Whatever you do don't get the actual sun in the picture. This is basic and critical.

2. Don't shoot where the sun is projecting a strong shadow.

3. If possible always shoot these shots on overcast days.

4. Watch out for other light sorces, lit windows in buildings, car headlights. They might look strange and give the effect away.

Anyone else have a do or don't?

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buffy
posted 02-03-2000 04:07 AM              
Look out for reflections aswell. (Point Break looks fairly awkward in the night scenes, where the waves shine as if polished.)

BTW, there are specific day2night filters. They´re grayish blue and I don´t think they´re too costy.

ebrigman
posted 02-03-2000 10:32 AM              
the problem is that usually to make it work you need to under-expose as well as tint the shot...

Most camcorders have very little in the way of a manual iris... you could try to add enough ND Filters to darken the shot past what the camera can adjust for... or your best bet may be to shoot at night... or at dusk

Actor
posted 02-03-2000 12:26 PM              
I have read that it is better to do "day for night" shooting on bright sunny days. Don't ask me to explain it. It's just what I've read. I'll try to look up the source and pass it on to you.

I do know it is best to do this during "the magic hour", a twenty minute period just before sunset or just after sunrise.

I've also been told the technique works better with film than with video. You have to be able to turn off auto color correction and auto exposure for it to work with video.

Reg Spoon
posted 02-03-2000 05:16 PM              
Yep, I'd have to agree with eveything that Actor says.

Day for night scenes will work best when shot on sunny days. The sun's shadows are supposed to simulate moon shadows.

Just remember to set your white balance to Tungsten (indoors), that will give you a blue tint.

And try to underexpose the shot. That's really important.

This method of achieving night shots may look cheesy when not executed well, but when pulled off properly, it'll give your production a look & feel that you can't get any other way. Most of the B films from the past 5 decades used this technique.

Have fun.

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