Faking a Crowd for A Rock Concert?

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BDS
posted 02-02-2000 03:20 PM              
It is Dark Loud Music,I can add the hand clapping sound,but faking the people any tips,It is a big Concert.Thanks, Brenda Diane Smith of BDS Co,Di4465 35mm or Bust

funkymunkey
posted 02-02-2000 04:21 PM              
I was looking at the Silver String forum a while back, weren't you the one who was going to do that big 35mm flick? How's that going?

seejay
posted 02-02-2000 04:36 PM              
K- heres my idea.
For reverse shots where the band looks at the audience have the audience completely dark. Then have maybe ten people hold up lighters and move around- then bring in the computer and copy the regions of light and multiply, just don't overdo it. Or if the audence needs to be seen and not just lighters shoot it in segments and composite together. It will take weeks
Otherwise advertise for extras and they will come.

35mm or bust?
If your budgets anything like mine I say bust. Keep out low budget forms ya damn studio hounds!!!

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Lab Rat
posted 02-02-2000 04:52 PM              
If the crowd is seen from a big distance, how about using Q-tips like they did for the podrace crowds in Phantom Menace? They painted all the heads different colours, then stuck them in rows in a box so that the bottoms stuck out and they could sort of wave them back and forth. Q-tips doing the wave! Of course, they still had to do a lot of tweaking in post. It's probably easier to do it the way Seejay said, but the Q-tips are just funnier.

BDS
posted 02-03-2000 05:13 AM              
Thank you,Seejay would your ideas cost alot yes I am shooting 35mm.Funymuney This is the project,Still raising money and now studying one of the parts. Brenda Di4465,#5mm or Bust!!!

seejay
posted 02-03-2000 01:12 PM              
Well... My idea is very economical in its self, however I assume your renting out some huge club or concert hall and that ain't cheap. But since your shooting 35MM I'm sure your budget will allow you to do that or even hire extras because your budget is over $500,000. Right? The only really expensive part of my idea is the transfer to digital to computer and back again for the special effect.

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BDS
posted 02-03-2000 01:29 PM              
No Seejay I do not have 500,000.I will just make the stage look big,I do not need to show the arena,just make look like one.I will add stage color lights,fog machine.There will be a dark stage I hoping here the Loud sound of a clapping crowd will make the viewers think it is a Large Rocking/funky show.Anymore tips to add.Thank you

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Brenda The Producer,BDS Co.,Di4465,35 or Bust.You can do anything


Actor
posted 02-03-2000 06:01 PM              
First take your shots of the band. Then take some close shots of a couple of rows of extras with the camera angle low enough that you can't tell that there are only two (or three) rows. Then take your camera to an event that has a lot of people and photograph the crowd, being careful not to get close enough to recognize anybody. During editing keep cutting between these shots.

Just an idea.

[This message has been edited by Actor (edited 02-03-2000).]

Actor
posted 02-03-2000 06:05 PM              
Another idea. Get in touch with Kodak. They have a library of stock footage which they license to film companies. Maybe they have some footage you could use. I have no idea what they would charge but it doesn't hurt to ask. There are also other companies besides Kodak that provide this service.

Doug
posted 02-03-2000 06:57 PM              
Just to add to Actors idea, you should also check with tv networks for stock footage. The likelyhood is that it will be on 16mm, though. Also check with other large broadcasters like the Discovery Channel, TLC, and PBS.

neoe
posted 02-04-2000 07:14 PM              
You could do what they did on titanic. Photograph a few extras infront of blue screen and composite them into the crowd. If you do this heaps of times, and photograph lots of different formations it could look good.
(see the scene in Titanic where the thousands of people are in the water all thrashing around at the end)

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