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Chagatai
posted 02-03-2000 05:21 PM              
Folks:

I haven't seen this one in the archives, so here goes.

You've seen shows like "Power Rangers" or "Power Rangers In Space" or "Power Rangers In My Pants" or whatever. In many of these series, they utilize custom-designed helmets.
They aren't simple motorcycle helmets as far as I can tell, because there are literally two halves to the helmet, front and back, which are on some sort of hinge mechanism located at the top of the helmet. These two halves almost "wrap" themselves around the wearer's face, locked together by two simple clasps.

Here's the question: Anyone know how to design a helmet like that or where to obtain one? Plus, how would you put a design on the helmet (i.e. the star design from "Power Rangers: Zeo" as compared to the "tyrannosaurus red ranger" from the original series).

I know that all Power Rangers-esque shows come from a brand of entertainment called "sentai" (not to be confused with "hentai", which is cartoon porn), and I have tried finding (English) information on this, but have come up with nothing. I have tried the various series (i.e. JAKQ, Zyuranger, Dairanger) and come up with nothing.

Any ideas? Post 'em here.

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--Chaggie

NJRFilms
posted 02-03-2000 06:14 PM              
You need an award, seriously. This is what im talking about, using boards as a last resort! Look at this guy, hes spent tons of time researching his question and just could not find an anwser. Other trial members: Take note of this!!!!
Now onto your little problem: I would think that these helmit are really cheap plastic shells, made out of some really crappy cheap mitereal. Then just big stickers are put over the shell to make the helmit. Someone in the makeup forum might know, so maybe post this their if no one anwsers by monday (if it can waite that long). Anyway my guess would be some cheap, easily molded material, i know nothing about this, but maybe silicon? Im probably 100% wrong there, but i had to say somthing!!!

Tone
posted 02-03-2000 06:24 PM              
Yea all you really need is a basic shell. If you want a different shape you can use something like plaster to add some charactor. Then just paint it or use stickers.

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Chagatai
posted 02-03-2000 06:47 PM              
NJR:

An award? Really? Hmmm... can I club people with it? Is it that heavy?

I thought that it may have been some sort of a flaky cheap plastic shell for the basic helmet mold initially, but I was wrong. There was a scene in one of those shows when the "white ranger" (not to be confused with the ivory or eggshell rangers) took off his helmet. It almost looked padded, much like a motorcycle helmet would be.

Besides, I don't think that a flimsy plastic shell could stand up to all of those flips, kicks, and shocks that the actors (and the original actors in Japan) put them through.

Stickers are a possiblilty, but there must be some sort of support. I thought maybe it could be sheet styrene, as I have seen things like Darth Vader's helmet made of this substance before, but that has a limited durability as well. I may have to bounce this one over to the other group.

(On a side note, when they had a casting call for the Power Rangers a few years back, I was on my way to go try out. However, they found out I was 6' 8" at the time, and they needed someone under 5' 10". Had to match up with those short Japanese guys, y'know. Their loss...)

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crazy lou
posted 02-03-2000 07:17 PM              
made a helmet myself once. basically i sculpted it out of foam insulation, molded it in 2 pieces, then made a fiberglass copy. it can get pretty involved but the basic principal is pretty easy. i'll scan some info for you and post it later on.

later
Tom


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Big Al
posted 02-03-2000 09:04 PM              
Funny you should ask. I worked on those helmets a few years ago. They are made out of fiberglass, cast out of silicone molds (with ultracal 30 jackets) The gel coat of polyester resin is tinted to roughly approximate the color of the finished helmet, so as to hide any scratches if the paint gets dinged. They are padded on the inside (pieces of matress pad covered with black spandex) and snap shut with trunk hardware on the sides. The visors are heat formed acrylic. I seem to recall making four of each of the helmets the last time we did them. I think they ran about $1500 or $2000 each, if I recollect correctly.

thx1138
posted 02-03-2000 09:20 PM              
Im sure it would stand up but theyd also have seperate/multiple helmets for closeups and stunt work. If it broke or cracked while fighting theyd just replace it with an identical one. It was probably either vaccumformed abs plastic or a urethane resin.

You could make one if you know how to sculpt. Heres a super simplified quick rundown:

1.buy 25 pound bag of plaster known as 'hydrocal'. cost: about $15 or more

2.make mold of your head for use to sculpt on as well as making a negative mold of your finished sculpted helmet. (you need to go find a lot of info on this before you try making a facial mold)

3.take cast of head and wipe a mold release on it in every possible area but not to thick like. (youll find better info on what kind of product to use as a mold release than anything i can remember) then after appying the mold release cast the 'negative mold' of your head, and after its cast youll have a perfect likeness of your head to sculpt upon for a perfect fitting helmet.

4.buy LARGE amount of sculpting clay such as plasticene. cost: about $30 or more for all of it

5.take final dry plaster cast of head and start putting clay on it and sculpting it how you want it. But some sculpting tools. Price: about 15 bucks for a few decent tools.

6.take final sculpted helmet and depending on under cuts (lets just say their are none and that it just requires a two part mold) you can just divide the clay in half with playing cards (the standard laminated ones that everyone uses, new deck only) down the middle. Now, apply the plaster preferably a thinner coat first and then a thicker one on after that one has dried.

7. after the the mold you just made has dried (never rush on letting it dry, leave it for a day) remove it (the clay sculpt will be ruined so you better have done a decent job casting it) and then you can do the final cast in something like urethane resin or fiberglass resin.

8. casting it in fiberglass/urethane/whatever resin and or vaccumforming it. well this part would also take a million steps and i havent done this anyways so....But as far as the price goes the fiberglass can be bought in large quanitites at boat shops and auto body shops for real cheap. Like 10 bucks a gallon or so. the urethane is much more expensive and which of course means its better in quality.

i left a lot out but thats the gist of it.

thx1138
posted 02-03-2000 09:22 PM              
oops. didnt see big als post before i posted all that. oh well i hoped i helped a bit anyways.

crazy lou
posted 02-03-2000 09:33 PM              
hey al, you mean they cost the studio that much,to make it was maybe 70-100bucks a helmet when you break it down, right? but of course it can be done cheaper.


the low/no budget people may be able to use caulking silicone and plaster as their molds bondo mixed with resin for the helmet itself, and some thin plexiglass for the visor.

foam is available at fabric stores, the hardware, silicone, plaster and plastic at hardware stores, the bondo and resin at auto shops. check out the above metioned books for somewhat detailed instructions on all of this stuff.


you can rough shape the helmet out of foam insulation panels, spread some wood glue on it to make the clay stick better, and sculpt the final detail in clay, this way you dont have to buy as much


later
Tom

thx1138
posted 02-03-2000 09:48 PM              
This just occured to me. if you just spread out the costs i mentioned (which werent exactly all inclusive) over a few months or so than it shouldnt be to difficult a task (if youre budget minded that is). that and youll have leftovers from all the stuff you bought. the clay is definitely reusable if you arent careless with it. as is the sculpt of your noggin if you are also carefull with it.


good luck.

[This message has been edited by thx1138 (edited 02-03-2000).]

ZOB
posted 02-03-2000 10:18 PM              
Here look at this it may help you out , vaccum formed plastic is light , and easy to trim / paint ect. not as durable as fiberglass, but it may be just what you need
G-luck

ZOB out
http://www.studiocreations.com/stormtrooper/vacuumforming/index.html

Chagatai
posted 02-04-2000 12:57 AM              
Folks (especially ZOB for that link):

Thanks for all of the help. I never imagined what kind of an underatking this would be. While I am tempted to try making a helmet and some armour right now, I'm gonna hold off on a while. But, should I make some sort of wacky helmet, rest assured, you will see it.

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--Chaggie

crazy lou
posted 02-04-2000 01:13 AM              
I'm working on another helmet, it was for school but never got finished (its a futureistic SWAT helmet). i can take some pics step by step as i go and post them somewhere, dont know when i'll get it done since i done have the cash yet....but sometime this year i want to get it done.

later
Tom

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