Author Topic: All your bullet time problems solved (in theory) Phil the Giant Robot
posted 02-05-2000 10:01 AM
while eating some marshmallows and reading Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, i had an Idea. in theory, if you built a track around an object and put a camera so it was always facing the object, and you span the camera around the track as fast as you could, then, theoreticly, if you slowed it down alot in the computer, it would look a lot, if not exactly, like a bullet time effect. now, time wouldn't freeze completely unless you could somehow get the camera spinning at the speed of light, but since one cannot do this, the film would come out so that the object looks like its moving extremly slow. i will be working on this effect and when i complete it, i will post it on my website. when i post it, i will say under this very subject, and will give you the addres to my site, until then, aidios!

Phil the Giant Robot

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Phil the Giant Robot
posted 02-05-2000 10:07 AM
oh yes, and by the way, if any of you have any ideas of what i could use as a track and not damage my camera (which i love dearly) please post it under this topic.

Phil the Giant Robot

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mxpx_99
posted 02-05-2000 11:05 AM
ya thats a sweet idea...i was thinking about that too a little bit ago...the only problem with this is that if the camera is going too fast i dunno how good the camera would focus..im not too sure,it might focus great but that was the only thing...but its definetely worth a try to see what happens.. i dont really have idea on the trakk tho...oh ya and email me at mxpx_99@hotmail.com once you do it to tell me the results..good lukk..
later

[This message has been edited by mxpx_99 (edited 02-05-2000).]

lyvewyer
posted 02-05-2000 11:37 AM
go here, for the track design http://www.pathcom.com/~bpaton/skateboard.html

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Mr. Hutt
posted 02-05-2000 12:52 PM
I had this same idea, and I trid it out with a friend. I looked pretty cool. I used an old electric tran set for the track and I taped the camera (very securely) to a boxcar and dollied around as fast as I could. Try it out!

Phil the Giant Robot
posted 02-05-2000 12:55 PM
yeah, i tried the train thing, but it didn't go fast enough and the train fell over off the track it was actually pretty funny to watch.

Gazorra
posted 02-05-2000 02:26 PM
I've had a similar idea (no, honestly)

what if you'd build something so the camera would first go towards the ground on some kind of pipe or rail whatever, to get its speed, and then the track would swing to a horizontal position going around your subject...

you'd have to have one hell of a shutterspeed, though.
you're not gonna do this with video, it's gonna be slow motion film...


jstern
posted 02-05-2000 02:29 PM
I too had thought about doing this.

Focusing wouldn't be a problem as long as the track was circular and centered around the object, and auto-focus (pronounced "outa-focus") was turned off.

The real problem is: if you want it to look anything like bullet time, you'll probably want to dolly the camera around the track pretty fast (I'm talking about a second or less). Unless you have a film camera going at 300 fps or so, the effect probably won't be nearly as good as the real thing.

In order to get desireable results, I reccommend you put the shutter speed on real high, and build the track outside.

Josh

Ivan
posted 02-05-2000 05:33 PM
Somehow it seems that it would be easier(and probably cheaper) just to really do the bullet time effect.

just my 2 bits....

sparkybus
posted 02-05-2000 06:35 PM
our friends, the wachowskies (brethren directors of the matrix) thought about this idea first their idea was to build a rocket camera that shot around the actors so fast that u would get the "bullet time" effect when slowed down. they experienced a few problems...like defying the laws of physics. they found out that not only was this idea improbable, but also BEYOND expensive. thus was born (or stolen, depending on how u look at it) the 400 camera bullet time effect as we know it.

buffy
posted 02-05-2000 06:43 PM
Itīs like any computer law. Some can be bended, others can be broken.

PyRoMoNkEy
posted 02-05-2000 08:40 PM
Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency rules. Dark Tea Time of the Soul is also great. Maybe someone should make them into movies?

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Dale Jenner
posted 02-05-2000 08:53 PM
I always get wacked out ideas when reading Douglas Adams too!!

I loved the hitch hikers series.

Dale Jenner

Andy
posted 02-06-2000 02:37 AM
Hey.. The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy is being REMADE into a movie.. so we'l see how that goes..

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