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Aash
posted 12-05-2000 12:45 AM              
I'm currently editing together a short film with Premiere, and I'm having some problems with the audio in one scene. I filmed the scene in an Ice Cream store, and the humming of the freezers turned out to be pretty bad. It doesn't quite drown out the dialogue; you can still make out everything that's being said. However, it is quite an annoyance.

So, I'm wondering if there is any way I can minimize this humming? I know there's probably no way I can totally get rid of it, but if I can just make it a bit less loud, that would be really good.

Thanks,
Michael Nusair

Prism
posted 12-05-2000 04:36 PM              
Good question... Depending on the range of the freezers, there might be the possibility of trying various filters to try and "tame" the sound of the freezers. Unfortunately you can also subsequently eliminate some other sounds that you might want, so... it's a tricky situation.

Isaiah

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Film_Scorer
posted 12-05-2000 06:53 PM              
If that doesnt work..you may need to re-record the dialouge using the actors for voice-overs.

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Aash
posted 12-05-2000 11:39 PM              
quote:
Originally posted by Prism:
Good question... Depending on the range of the freezers, there might be the possibility of trying various filters to try and "tame" the sound of the freezers. Unfortunately you can also subsequently eliminate some other sounds that you might want, so... it's a tricky situation.

Yeah, that's what I figured. But I'm having a hard time finding a filter that will do what I need. Any suggestions for a particular filter to use? Maybe one in a different program?

Thanks,
Michael Nusair

Prism
posted 12-06-2000 03:04 AM              
Any possibility of sending me a clip? It's hard to diagnose an audio problem when you can't work from some kind of reference.

Isaiah

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Aash
posted 12-06-2000 10:14 AM              
quote:
Originally posted by Prism:
Any possibility of sending me a clip? It's hard to diagnose an audio problem when you can't work from some kind of reference.

Okay. Thanks a lot. You can download a clip right here:
http://www.gamersgames.com/clip.mpg

Thanks again,
Michael Nusair

Prism
posted 12-06-2000 11:25 AM              
Hmm... I don't know if this can be fixed with filters or any post-production. The dialogue is unintelligible and the acoustics make it worse. What I'd suggest is that you try recording the dialogue again and then matching it up to the video. It isn't too difficult, either. I've done it at least twice and it worked just fine. Try your best to say it exactly how it was said on tape. That'll help a lot.

Isaiah

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Aash
posted 12-07-2000 09:55 AM              
quote:
Originally posted by Prism:
Hmm... I don't know if this can be fixed with filters or any post-production. The dialogue is unintelligible and the acoustics make it worse. What I'd suggest is that you try recording the dialogue again and then matching it up to the video. It isn't too difficult, either. I've done it at least twice and it worked just fine. Try your best to say it exactly how it was said on tape. That'll help a lot.

Okay, I guess I'll have to try that.

Thanks,
Michael Nusair

FilmWeapon
posted 12-07-2000 05:12 PM              
You can download Goldwave,go to the effects,and reduce hum, it might help.
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Prism
posted 12-07-2000 08:35 PM              
I strongly doubt it. The reflections in the room make for distorted audio. I could hardly make out any of the dialogue. The voiceover idea may be the only solution.

Isaiah

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kangell
posted 01-08-2001 03:29 PM              
If you were going to reshoot the ice cream parlor again how should it be done differently? Presumeably you could get the freezers turned off for brief periods, but what about the reflective sound? Could some sort of out of camera baffeling be used?

Prism
posted 01-08-2001 06:25 PM              
Good idea, kangell. Or if a tightly polarized shotgun mic could be used, you might be able to get more straight-on dialogue and less reflections.

Isaiah

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cdolsen
posted 01-09-2001 01:50 PM              
if you're considering a reshoot, dress the set with more cloth. table cloths, packing blankets out of camera, window dressing, etc. this will help reduce reflected sound.

The Outcast
posted 01-10-2001 02:35 AM              
Damn that was a loud ice cream parlor!

filmguy15
posted 01-10-2001 10:13 AM              
The best thing to do would be to turn off the machines for a few min. when your shootin, but if they won't let you do that, then i guess just do voice-overs.

-Chase

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