How do you do your audio???

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SINnier
posted 12-14-2000 02:47 AM              
I'm kind of a newbie.

What i would like to know is.
How many people record the audio with a different piece of equipment? Besides the camcorder.

If you do it with some other type of equipment then what?

For those who don't. What do you use to mix your audio? Can you seperate the video and audio if it's recorded witn the camcorder?


I think using a different audio recorded would be easier and better, is this true.

Thanks
SINnnier

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Prism
posted 12-14-2000 02:56 AM              
You can read my post at http://www.likeastory.com/boards/Forum21/HTML/001446.html

Gotta be careful about posting in the wrong forum!

Isaiah

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SINnier
posted 12-14-2000 03:04 AM              
Sorry,

Just didn't realize there was a sound place.
I should have guessed there was.
I seen the Sound Guys and Dolls after i put the post in Behind the Scenes Community Center.
I'll make sure in the future i put my post where it belongs.

I'll keep checking both post for replys.
I did read yours Prism. thanks

Thanks
SINnier

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SINnier
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Prism
posted 12-14-2000 03:16 AM              
Noooo problem! If you got anything else to ask, I'll see what I can help you with.

Isaiah

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morpherguy
posted 01-02-2001 01:22 PM              
There really is no reason to not record your sound with your camcorder. It's good 16 bit sound and it stays in sync with the picture. I always use an external mic. I also use a mixer if I'm using more than one mic. After the mixer, the sound does straight to the camcorder to be recorded with the picture. I edit with Premiere but assume that most editing software is basically the same. In Premeire it is easy to separate the sound from the picture. You can unlock the sound from the video and remove it or slide it out of sync etc... You can also add sound tracks and lock them to the video so that they can't come out of sync with the picture.

If you recorded your scene dialogue seperately on a DAT recorder then copied it to your hard drive you would then have to deal with syncing the sound to the picture. Why bother...

Misterthrills
posted 01-04-2001 03:13 AM              
I dont do much sound stuff. How does a mixer work and when do you sync it while filming or in post

Prism
posted 01-04-2001 03:59 AM              
A mixer isn't really necessary if you're using just one mic to start with. For post-production it may come in quite useful, though. If you wanted to add sounds to a video with traditional linear editing, you'd definitely need a mixer. What you'd do is put your camcorder audio output(s) into one or two of the mixer inputs, and then use the other mixer inputs to insert sounds from other sources. Any good mixer will have faders for each channel, so you can choose the desired level (volume) for each sound. If you want my opinion, the best mixers are made by these brands:

Mackie (They ROCK)
Behringer (Nicely built, similar to Mackie in some ways)
Tascam (They make some awesome stuff)
Yamaha (Their best ones are expensive digital models, and definitely made for pro use)

I like to avoid Alesis, as far as mixers go. They make some decent ADAT decks and effects processors, but aside from that, I don't trust them.

So in short, I think a mixer is impractical for the most part while shooting. I think a mixer's best place is in a studio - not on shooting location. (Unless you have multiple sources/mics, such as in a newscast, in which case a mixer is fundamental.)

Isaiah

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The Outcast
posted 01-05-2001 01:36 AM              
Isaiah,
Can you explain to me just how a mixer is used in post production?
There is a mixer at my school that has about 100 different knobs that I assume you use to adjust the tone and pitch (?) or something of the sound? Is this really all that necessary for just some dialogue?
Thanks,
-The Outcast

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Prism
posted 01-05-2001 01:48 AM              
For dialogue? I don't think you need much. All those knobs you see do all kinds of different things. The top (closest to the back) knobs are probably trim/gain controls. Others may include aux sends, returns, pans, EQ, and monitor controls. For a simple post job, you'll most likely have little or no use for most of the features on the mixer. What kind of mixer is it?

For a job like yours, you'd probably just want to route the audio outputs of the camera into the mixer's channel 1 (and 2, if it's stereo. If it is stereo, you'll want to pan channel 1 to the left and 2 to the right)
Then pretty much all you'd wanna be doing is changing the volume perhaps, or modifying the EQ (which probably isn't necessary), but then if the mixer has lots more inputs (which is more than likely) you can also mix in other sounds from other sources if you want to.
Then route the camcorder's video output to the video input of your dubbing deck, and route the audio outputs of the mixer into the audio inputs of the dubbing deck. You get the picture?

Isaiah

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The Outcast
posted 01-05-2001 03:40 AM              
The sound set up I have now is an XL-1 with an XLR adapter. The adapter has 2 inputs. I have 2 mics (how perfect!): an audio technica shotgun mic and a shure condenser mic. The adapter works with the 2 inputs being right and left audio. You can control the gain on the camera. Think this will be good enough?
-The Outcast

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Prism
posted 01-05-2001 04:45 AM              
Sounds awesome! If you get someone to hold the mic on a boom and keep it steady and accurate, you should be able to get some pretty darn good audio from that thing.
Wish I had your kind of stuff! Hehehe.

Isaiah

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