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Topic: multiple gunshots pt2
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film23
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posted 03-07-2000 09:19 PM
ok, the link for pull gag shots is good but i would really like to have violent shots... you know, lots of blood EXPLODING from the body. i know of using a pump (like ones used in bug extermination) for violent shots but like i said, i need multiple shots - like 7. any other info? |
gore master
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posted 03-07-2000 09:52 PM
I suggest using a few lengths of tubings for seperate hits and cans of air. Maybe a cans of dust-off from photo supply stores. |
Jeff F
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posted 03-08-2000 07:50 AM
One of the unchanging truths of budget film making is that sometimes you have to accept the limitations of your budget. Even big feature films have limits on what they have time and money for, and can't always include everything they want or have seen in a bigger budgeted picture.Without access to an unlimited number of compressed air sources, you may find you only
have the resources for creating 2 or 3 shots at a time. This would require you to show the first wo shots hitting, then leaving the costume with the bloody holes on the actor, moving your gunshot FX to 2 new areas and repeating, etc, until you have 7 or 8 blood gags happeneing in 3 shots. With proper editing and camera moves, the sequence can be even more effective than a stationary shot with shots happening 1,2,3,4... One example of this would be: Show a angle from one side of the actor, change angles a bit and move in closer for the next shot, then go in for a close up for the last shot. ------------------
Jeff F - Magic and FX
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FXMan
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posted 03-08-2000 08:04 AM
Just as an added thought to what Jeff says, one thing that lots of people don't think of is using the closeups of shots hitting a body BUT using it over again - you know clipping it out and using it a second time. As long as it's on an area of the body or clothing that's kind of "generic" you could easily get by clipping those frames out and plugging them back in at another spot in the sequence. I have no idea as I'm not a film editor and don't work with this stuff at all, but I KNOW it's been done even on films that have huge budgets. Granted it might be caught as a repeat by some of the audience but the majority won't even think of that as an issue. Likewise, I have no idea how hard or how easy this would be but if it could be done, that saves on the budget for something that is low budget and can be done when editing stuff after it's been filmed/videoed, etc.Just a thought. FXMan |
therave
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posted 03-08-2000 12:25 PM
Well, my friend and i recently finished off our short movie, and i throw an arrow at him. It hits him in the chest, and he throws a bottle cap of blood over his shoulder at a certain angle so the camera can't see his hand. This makes a blood 'spray' effect. Also, We put a little tuble of blood under his armpit, and he squeezed it, so blood gushed out. Just an idea!  |
Chainsaw
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posted 03-08-2000 12:36 PM
I refuse to accept the limitations of my budget, and I don't think anyone else should either. Me and a couple of friends are working like crazy on this and many other effects, and we think we have found a low cost way but we won't know for sure until we test it. There is always a way...
I suggest (if you're not in a hurry) that you keep an eye out for a post I will make about a movie clip, 'cause then you will know I've done it. But I'm afraid it will be a while... (I'm sleeping 4 hours a night because I have too damn much to do). But the effects will be made, with or without the money....
Until then, good luck... |
film23
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posted 03-08-2000 12:50 PM
thanx guys. i must agree with chainsaw about not being limited by a budget. that's the fun in low budget, guerilla type filmmaking... coming up with the ways of doing things you can't "afford". remember, being a filmmaker is being an artist - there are only boundries to we can do if we set them. |
twizted666
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posted 03-08-2000 05:13 PM
just a suggestion, what you could do, is use the pull technique, and then cut to slow motion of each individual gun shot, using compressed air. If you make the angle changes fast ebough in your final cut, the difference in the gunshot wouldn't be too noticable. Have fun, and happy shooting |
crazy lou
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posted 03-08-2000 07:00 PM
I was thinking about this today at work, i love my job! no really the mind numbing repetiion give me time to think about my movie usually without being disturbed, except for the annying customer or two...ok, i got an insect sprayer a couple months ago and brought it home to play with. Well i used to play paintball, dont have the cash nowadays, and they make rubber paint grenades that are basically rubber tubing inflated with pressurized paint and folded in half. they have an awesome spray when you throw them and they release. I HAVE NOT TRIED THIS, BUT IN THEORY IT SHOULD WORK. with that said, you may want to get some silicone tubing (i've seen it at home depot type stores, pet shops, and some of the frequently referred to FX places sell it. maybe some thin twine or clothes pins would work, but you may want to test first cut the tubing to a length you can use, do the normal type compressed air bullet hit stuff to one end. then tie the string around the tubing so the next step will result in the tubing expanding, now insert the sprayer wand into the tubing and hold it tight spray some "blood" into the tubing until it expands, then have someone else tie another piece of string around the end you just filled. make a bunch of these and run the end where you want the hit to occur liike normal, set all the "filled" ends together, when you need the hits to fire, just untie the string and the blood should be forced out the open end. Of course the usual warnings apply, eye protection, dont pressurize the tubing too much it can rupture, etc etc
if anyone tries this and it works let me know
later
Tom
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