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Topic: Funny blood...
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Jm
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posted 03-23-2000 06:50 PM
I've been at this forum for a while and I've done a lot of fake blood stuff for the stuff I shoot, but I noticed something funny today.
While at work I got a cut on my thumb, pretty deep. I started bleeding all over the place, blood puddled in my hand. The first thing I thought to myself was... it doesn't look real enough, not a deep enough red  ------------------
--Jm
...and that's all I got to say about that... |
eggy
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posted 03-23-2000 06:54 PM
should have added more red dye and a little bit of blue |
FXMan
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posted 03-23-2000 08:54 PM
Too funny!! FXman |
gore master
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posted 03-23-2000 10:02 PM
Now you know that blood is a bright warm red with a little yellow, and not the stereotypical dark red almost purple color. I've been trying to get people involved with this stuff to understand that for years. |
crazy lou
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posted 03-24-2000 12:39 AM
that reminds me of a time i was at school using the table saw...no really i was using a hand saw shaping some foam, it slipped and sliced me, i told everyone to get cameras so that they could get some "blood color reference" earlier that week we had been arguing about a guys blood recipe, it looked like crap, after i cut myself i had a flock of "followers" who listened to me, at least for a while
later
Tom
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gore master
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posted 03-24-2000 12:49 AM
Ha when people argue about how blood should look remind them of that so they know that you know and I know you know? 
Really when someone tells me what blood really looks like I tell them of the times I've been in the funeral home, the guy I saw get run over by a truck, the time(just last summer) my best friend cut his finger to the bone and it bled like a faucet etc. I just can't stand it one some kid comes up and says, "that's not what blood looks like". |
doom1701
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posted 03-24-2000 09:18 AM
Maybe I'm just sickly, but I've also noticed how runny my blood is when I get a decent cut. More like colored water than anything, and definately not corn syrup...------------------
TL
daa Productions Nobody lives forever, so you might as well go out with a good caffeine buzz... There's always hope, because it's the one thing that they haven't figured out how to kill yet... [This message has been edited by doom1701 (edited 03-24-2000).] |
SeerSavant
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posted 03-24-2000 11:16 AM
But lets face it thick blood in a dark red looks way better on camera that real blood which is never bright or deep enough or splatters in the right way. ------------------
SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!
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Ivan
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posted 03-24-2000 11:16 AM
Course it also depends on where you get cut what color the blood is. I mean, shade wise, not like, oh, dang, I guess my knee blood is purple today, huh! ahem. right. Cuz Ive had some nice slices on my shins in skateboarding mishaps that were bloody(no pun intended) dark, even after the blood ran all the way down my leg. And when I get nose bleeds, which is unfortunately rather often, they look much different, more of the brighter red color. Not much of a surprise with the probably differences in oxygen, but then again I havent been in a biology class in how long...hah...back on blood, I once stabbed myself with a pen and squeezed blood out onto a slide during a lab in bio. to see what it looked like under a microscope, and my bio teacher found out, squealed, EEWW, grooss! THATS SO SICK! YOU GET A ZERO! Dont quite see how a person gets to be a sceince teacher squealing about blood...but now Ive strayed quite far off topic, ey. |
lyvewyer
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posted 03-24-2000 12:41 PM
i havent had a decent sized cut to compare blood colors to in a while, so what i do, is in the summer, on a warm night i go outside and walk around with my friends, then when a mosquito bites me i make a muscle where it bites, the thing cant get out if a muscle is made where it is sucking. then i just wait for a couple of seconds, then when it has taken in enough blood, i brace for some pain, and BANG it pops, blood goes everywhere.
p.s. i dont recommend this if you live in, say, africa or near the amazon.------------------
I was normal once..... I didn't like it.
sweet merciful crap! my car! - homer simpson
check my site http://members.xoom.com/lyvewyer/index.html |
gore master
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posted 03-24-2000 01:53 PM
The kind of lighting your in and whether there are shadows on the blood can also determine whether it looks darker. I've seen it so much that even when the shadows make it look dark, I can still tell it's the same red color. And blood is NOT like colored water. Make some colored water, let it run off your fingers etc. It may flow like water but that does not mean it's the same as colored water. MY cornsyrup recipe has more than water and food coloring. Photographs very realisticly. |
wonderbread
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posted 03-24-2000 03:58 PM
hm, maybe it depends on whether the blood is oxygenated or not.
If it has oxygen, it should be brighter. I cut my thumb recently and it seemed to be the typical dark red color. |
Elurew
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posted 03-24-2000 03:59 PM
and to that sir goremaster...can we see a pic of your blood in a shot?? just curious, if your work lives up to the image i have of you (a good image). |
wonderbread
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posted 03-24-2000 03:59 PM
okay, just realized someone sort of said that already.
oh well, that's what I get for being lazy.[This message has been edited by wonderbread (edited 03-24-2000).] |
gore master
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posted 03-24-2000 04:26 PM
once again, it looks darker depending on the lights and shadows. I was matching my blood inside once, it was kinda dark, but there were lots of shadows and dark light. Went outside, it was the bright red I'm used to. I have a few pics on my comp in photodeluxe. I'm not sure how to switch them to other formats and haven't taken a lot of time with them lately. The blood filmed wonderfully(especially colorwise). However it was a new formula then(a month ago) but I no longer use it because it had several problems. The one I use(conrsyrup mix) is much better. I don't really have any of my improved recipe now because I'm broke and I need money for the cornsyrup, some of the color, and I need to order some propylene glycol(not sure what the price is yet). I actually found a company which sells the food brand of that chemical! |
gore master
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posted 03-24-2000 04:28 PM
p.s.
when fresh blood flows from a cut, oxygen hits it. There for, blood flowing from you cuts will always be oxygenated unless there is no oxygen in the room. Even corpses that have been dead for a few days let out some bright blood when cut for embalming. |
colddish
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posted 03-24-2000 04:35 PM
It really doesn't matter how blood looks......it matters how it looks to the film, in other words how the film tranlates the effects of color, light fastness, Hue and contrast. Don't trust your naked eye it will decieve you every time it is a very inefficient tool, if this wasn't true we would never have had any need to invent microscopes, telescopes or eye glasses so that we may see past the eyes capabilities. Film is a color balanced medium that must constantly be fooled by the imagination of the technicians using it.....Illusions.....hence the phrase, MOVIE MAGIC. |
gore master
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posted 03-24-2000 04:46 PM
Like I said, my blood shows up good on FILM. Better than to my eyes. I do film tests all the time. Some of the colors show up better on film than to the naked eye. for exapmle the rusted orange color. With the cornsyrup recipe I use the smear looks almost pink in sunlight. However when the same thing is filmed, it has that rusted orange smear which is almost always overlooked. |
Morpheos7
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posted 03-24-2000 07:17 PM
Today at school we had a party because today's the last day before spring break begins. Anyway there was a jolly jump and I was doing a back flip and my knee hit my lip. There was blood everywhere. I looked at it, and I noticed it looked nothing like the blood in movies, even though the blood in movies look better. |
gore master
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posted 03-24-2000 10:06 PM
not neccesarily. Some movies have pretty good blood or stuff that can pass as blood. |
Jm
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posted 03-24-2000 10:22 PM
Just in case some thought I was serious, I was completely kidding. I just thought it was funny how I thought of SFX first and safety second, but never really had any trouble with my blood recipies. Heh, I have to admit that since I sliced it right on the knuckle near a vein I could make it bleed profusely on demand... some screen tests and comparisons are in order Jm ------------------
--Jm
...and that's all I got to say about that... |
World_Empire_Films
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posted 03-24-2000 10:46 PM
Hehehehe.....You guys are all arguing that real blood dosen't splatter well enough, But shouldn't real blood splatter like real blood? Just a thought. |
gore master
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posted 03-24-2000 11:10 PM
it does splatter. I'm not exactly sure which posts you are speaking of. |
Geek Tragedy
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posted 03-25-2000 11:02 PM
To get the best effect with blood then shoot in B/W. Either that or actually cut and kill your actors. It's kinda fun. |
