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WEEZL
posted 04-25-1999 07:36 PM           
Hey guys.

I need help on a special efffect my friend and I might be doing (if possible) in my film.

I want to have a closeup of a bullet flying through the air in super slow motion. Like something out of the movie called The Matrix with Keanu Reeves.

I have access to Adobe photoshop ver 4.0 and Adobe premiere ver 5.0. Is this possible to do with these two programs?

Any help would be great thanx.

WEEZL

Robotic Dream
posted 04-25-1999 07:45 PM           
How complicated will your effect be? Will the bullet have a contrail? Spinning? trucking in on the subject? It's the difference between going CG or models, or both.

WEEZL
posted 04-28-1999 06:43 AM           
I want to have a 3d bullet spinning slowly in super duper slo mo and have a bit of contrail. I can use models but I would prefer CGI.

Any help would be great.

THANX

Wingnut
posted 04-28-1999 07:04 AM           
Kinda like the scene in Sniper?

Trautman
posted 04-28-1999 01:57 PM           
The easiest way to do the bullet sequence would be computer animation. Do you have 3d studio?

WEEZL
posted 04-29-1999 04:39 AM           
I haven't got 3d studio and haven't seen sniper but the shot I want is just a quick 8 second shot of nothing but the bullet sailing through the air on frame. Just a side on sort of view of it slowly rotating.

I was thinking if I could just get a shot of a background quickly moving and blur it using Adobe photoshop then scanning in pics of the bullet each slightly different to show the rotating effect.

Would this work or would it look really cruddy? It was just a thought. Keep the ideas coming.

Thanks guys.

WEEZL

Wingnut
posted 04-29-1999 06:56 AM           
What you can do (like you said) is film the background you want. Just swipe the camera across a landscape and it will blur. Now take the bullet you want whether it be some fake plastic thing or a real shell and shoot in (not in the literal sense of firing a gun...just with a camera!) in front a small blue screen. Zoom in and focus with your camera on it and bring the tape into adobe premier and replace the blue screen with the moving background you shot earlier. There you go a speeding bullet blazing through the air. The only problem i can see in doing this is rotating the bullet. A real cheap and easy way i can think of to fool the audience into thinking its rotating is to have the light source you are using to light the bullet in front of your camera move a little bit each time over the bullet. When played back, if done right that is, it should appear that the bullet is spinning by producing light spots and shadows on the bullet at different times. I hope that made some sense! For the blue screen you'll only need a small section, probably no bigger than 2ft by 2ft. build a wooden frame around it and set it up somewhere where you can shoot it easily. OHh ohh! brainstorm. what if you made the bluescreen and frame and layed it flat on like a table or something...positioned your camera on a tripod directly over top of it....and then put the bullet in the center of the blue screen board. what you do is but a small piece of tape behind the bullet (i'm talking real small, just big enough to work) and fasten the bullet to the screen. for each rotation, just lift up the bullet, move the tape and lay the bullet back down in the same (marked) place on the board. that way you are actually rotating it. you would then have to edit each clip of the bullet at different rotations together in adobe premier and put them frame by frame in slow motion. choose what works for you: either the light moving method or the physical moving of the bullet. hope this works for ya!

[This message has been edited by Wingnut (edited 04-29-99).]

The PULP- FICTION Weezl
posted 05-02-1999 05:27 AM           
Thanx guys espically Wingnut your idea is fantastic and I will try it as soon as I get my capture card (hopefully soon!). Thnax again.

P.S

The PULP- FICTION Weezl is my new username and my new email is WEEZL@pulpfiction.com
just thought I would let you guys know.

The PULP- FICTION Weezl

Lippi
posted 05-06-1999 06:29 PM           
Hi there some new thoughts on this:

1. Quite cool idea Wingnut but if youŽll try this you will see, that it is not smooth(like it would be if it was real super-slo-mo. The bullet will be shaking slightly, as you canŽt alwas position it EXACTLY the same.

2. So my idea was, if youŽre using bluescreen why not take a small e-motor (**** up an old toy-car of your brother) ) put a stick on the axis and glue the bullet at the other end. Paint the stick blue, let the motor run slow(!), put it in front of a small blue-screen and here ya go!

Hope this helps
Lippi

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