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Topic: Matrix- jumping over buildings
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Noah'z Grafik ark
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posted 05-24-2000 07:28 PM
Is there any way to simulate this effect on a low budget? I mean like jumping accross a building and then landing on the roof of another and then make the roof kinda break around your feet from the impact. I was thinkin maybe benny could make a tutorial or something, he's good we these sorta things. |
Sloan
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posted 05-24-2000 07:50 PM
 Ask CyberSmyth, he was nominated for best SFX on the ZDTV 2nd Annual Camfest.
He did the exact effect you're talking about except the actor was jumping from the ground to the roof of a tall building.
It was cool looking. ------------------
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crazy lou
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posted 05-24-2000 08:36 PM
first off, there are like 3 or 4 cuts in there. uh, its prety simple...bluescreening, some small platforms and some background footage
build 2 small platforms, that look like your building tops, film the actor jumping against a bluescreen. make the top of one of those platforms out of something like drywall with a layer of plywood a couple of inches below that so you dont jump all the way through. film the actor landing on that, then film him running and jumping off the other...combine all of them in premiere (or whatever you have)
that's how i'd do it later
TOm |
Benny
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posted 05-24-2000 10:10 PM
Noah'z Grafik ark:
I think i would suggest a similar approach to the one crazy lou mentioned.
You could make it in 3 cuts: Take off - flying/jumping thru air - landing.
- Take off - Film the actor against a green screen from the front, jumping as if he/she was jumping off the buidling - use some background photage of a edge of a building and compose those together.
- Thru the air - Film the actor against a green screen this time maybe from the side and compose with live photage of real buildings or maybe use the method Crazy lou described.
- Landing - Again, use the method Crazy lou decribed and maybe put some flour or similar on the box to get some dust when he lands to make the impact look harder - compose with live photage.
I think that should work well  I hope this helps or gives you some new ideas. ------------------
.Benny.
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Noah'z Grafik ark
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posted 05-24-2000 10:27 PM
Thanks for all the help, when i get everything done ill upload the files to a website. I still am not clear though how I would do the actually flying throught the air part, the middle clip. |
Nick Jade
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posted 05-24-2000 10:50 PM
what part of it dont you exatly understand?[This message has been edited by Nick Jade (edited 05-24-2000).] |
crazy lou
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posted 05-24-2000 10:51 PM
bingo benny! at least someone can make sense out of my ramblings
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Benny
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posted 05-24-2000 11:05 PM
For the air cut..
Film the actor against a green screen somthing like this  The distance between the two boxes dont have to be to much you can add some slowmotion in post-production. And then film a background plate, or make it CGI if you want, and make it a long image wich you can pan using software like Premiere, After Effect
kind of like this  now the red square shows how much of the image wich will be seen at the same time - now as the actor jumps in the green-screen shot - pan the background making it appear as if the actor was jumping longer then he does and lands on the other side. Did that make sense? ------------------
.Benny.
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crazy lou
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posted 05-24-2000 11:17 PM
stay out of my head! i'm warning you
you get that mail i sent you?
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Benny
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posted 05-24-2000 11:17 PM
yes i got the email going to take a closer look tomorrow and see what i can find out ------------------
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Noah'z Grafik ark
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posted 05-25-2000 06:19 PM
Yes I understand what you were saying now benny thanks a lot, im new to premeire and after effects so can you tell me how to only choose a section of it and then pan out. and how would i do this if i wanted the background to move. so the clouds move and stuff. |
crazy lou
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posted 05-25-2000 07:12 PM
the simple way would be to pan while shooting the background footage, then just capture the clip and play it normally. later
TOm |
Benny
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posted 05-25-2000 07:32 PM
I agree with Crazy lou ~ pan while you shoot the photage of live buildings.
CGI is a solution ~ but a complex one if you have never used a 3D program before, however Bryce3D is quite easy to learn and might be a possible solution, but again, i think live photage is the best one You could also shoot a live background of a sky and add some CGI buildings. And you can do it the other way around ~ film real buildings and add CGI elements. Just a few suggestions, i hope they help ------------------
.Benny.
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Noah'z Grafik ark
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posted 05-25-2000 07:34 PM
if i pan out on the background and then insert the footage of the guy jumping on greenscreen wouldn't the guy look really big and wouldn't the jump look really small? |
crazy lou
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posted 05-25-2000 08:00 PM
do you mean zoom out? l
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Benny
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posted 05-25-2000 08:49 PM
Noah'z Grafik ark:
Take a look at this clip. Its a clip wich illustrates the method described above. I used the images from my previous post. It's a one second, AVI clip of what it would look like if you use the method above.
Got any more questions, ask away Heres the clip: http://www7.ewebcity.com/magicalkingdom/jump.avi Note: that the "actor" is in the almost exact same place while i pan the background and it appears as if the jump was longer than it actually is ------------------
.Benny.
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multimedia light & magic
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posted 05-25-2000 09:12 PM
hmm....maybe he wants to do it like it actually was in the matrix, with his actor jumping away form the camera in the foreground, a far distance to the background?------------------
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Noah'z Grafik ark
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posted 05-25-2000 09:16 PM
I get it now. With the panning do you shoot the whole thing and then using some effect add the panning in or do you shoot moving the camera in a straight line. and does anyone know how i would be able to film the roofs of buildings, i live in NYC, manhattan and also have a house in conn. or is there some stock footage somewhere which i could download? |
Benny
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posted 05-25-2000 09:39 PM
This place might have some stock photage, but i am not sure: http://www.artbeatswebtools.com/ You can ie. shoot while moving the camera ..or.. add pan later, its up to you. Use the method you think is the easiest.
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.Benny.
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CyberSmYth
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posted 05-26-2000 09:10 AM
If your going to add the pan later I would suggest you use a still, film camera to get a few good shots. Then get a good hi-res scan of it to use it in the pan. You might even be able to find some good post cards that you can use, look to get something with a good bit of detail. And of course there is always making the city in CG. Good chance you can get some good city models at 3D Cafe. Also, don't underestemate the use of shaking the camera. When your actor hits the ground shake the footage for a second or two. I did it in post, just have it move up, down, left and right radomly. It'll looks like he hit the ground hard. And thanx Sloan! [This message has been edited by CyberSmYth (edited 05-26-2000).] |
Nick Jade
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posted 05-26-2000 10:07 AM
why dont you just use some wires! (just kidding) |
Noah'z Grafik ark
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posted 05-26-2000 01:48 PM
Thanks guys,im going to try this, i dont have the space right now so ill start it in about a month or so, ill keep you guys posted |
Noah'z Grafik ark
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posted 05-30-2000 06:18 PM
I took the pictures for the background images of the video. My green screen should arrive sometime soon. When i get it i will film my friend jumping and have the video fully edited and posted on the internet within 2 days from the green screen shooting. |
crazy lou
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posted 05-30-2000 06:20 PM
cool, hope it works for you...cant wait to see the final.later
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Benny
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posted 05-30-2000 06:30 PM
I look forward to see the result Noah. I got your email and it sounds like you got a pretty good deal on the green-screen Good luck and keep us posted ------------------
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Chaos
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posted 05-30-2000 07:28 PM
sounds good |
Directors Cut
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posted 05-31-2000 02:35 PM
I wantedto see this post on fire |
Chimpoid
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posted 05-31-2000 03:05 PM
O.K. no one else took the bait.
Lined up for a rotten joke or what?How do you do the jumping over buildongs thing? Simple.... You have to let it all go Neo, FREE YOUR MIND. If you are ever in Scotland please feel free to some by and slap me for posting this reply. I just couldn't help myself.  Chimp |
DarelRex
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posted 05-31-2000 05:02 PM
My friend Jim did a jump like that in our fanfilm "Matrix Jedi". It came out rather well.
http://freeweb.pdq.net/smokin/rotoscope/poster.jpg |
Benny
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posted 05-31-2000 06:17 PM
LOL goot one Chimp.------------------
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Noah'z Grafik ark
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posted 05-31-2000 09:12 PM
DarelRex: Thats just a poster, do you have the acutal movie file that i can view? |
DarelRex
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posted 06-01-2000 02:36 PM
I submitted it to TheForce.Net two weeks ago, and I'm still waiting for them to say anything about it. Until they give me a yes or no, I don't want to release it just yet.Update: Looks like they like it, and might host it, but no final word yet... [This message has been edited by DarelRex (edited 06-02-2000).] |
