help with special sequence!
help with special sequence!- special effects and filmmaking
Hello,All.
I am getting a lot out of this board, thank you. Now please letr me ask you help! I am shooting a sequence in my short film(on super8) That requires two dolls to be riddled with bulletts.( a Gi. JOe and a Barbie) This is a surreal part. I was thinking of putting them in a black 3 sided box and using a bb gun to shoot them with after I filled them with blood. I was going to shoot at 48 fps a second. What do you think? Got any better suggestions? ANy help would be great.
THESPIAN.
Thespian, I'll try to help you out since I am a big fan of super8 and GI Joe animations! By the way, preproduction on my own animation "G.I. JOE: American Hero" has begun.
Okay, so anyway. I dont quite understand how you plan on filling up bb's with blood. Unless I read you post wrong, I didnt think bb's were hollow. Not to mention, I have a funny feeling that to a GI Joe, a bb would be like a canon ball. What about if you never actually showed the bullets. Try taking a eye dropper and filling it with blood and squirting it on your characters. It might be a little more surreal as well. Not to mention you could do some creative editing and really make the sequence stand out.
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Chris Penney
http://chrispenney.bizland.com/
Totally weird idea, straight out of twenty hours at the word processor, but based on past positive experience. What if you take a turkey baster... like a giant eye dropper... some gelatin, and red food coloring, mix the gelatin until it starts to set up, and then splurt it with the turkey baster onto the dolls?
The gelatin will make a terrific splat when it hits, if you time it right, there will be residue around the point of impact - a raised ring that could easily look like flesh, and a satisfying spray of semi-solid red goop all over the place.
Sarge
I think he meant he was going to fill the GI Joe/Barbie with "blood" (some sort of substitute, I hope!!)
Isaiah
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Hilarem datorem diligit Deus
I suspect that with the rigid plastics used in doll production that a regular air powered BB gun might not penetrate them completely, a pump action gun might be needeed, which would not allow rapid fire if this is what you want. A strong CO2 powered gun might be what you need.
If your pellet gun is strong enough, the dolls may simply crack and shatter instead of form holes where hit. This is fine if you are looking for a surrealist effect, and Barbie dolls aren't going to give you much realism anyway.
Is this for a dream sequence, an artsy death scene, or is it intended as a low budget effect to substitute for life size actors? No problems with the first few, but if you were hoping to do a gunshot scene with miniatures realistically, I think you will be disappointed with the results.
In any case, I strongly suggest trying an experiment first - fill a doll up with something red and fire away to check the results before filming. If you don't want to do this, at least try a shot or two at the back of one of the dolls to see how the plastic reacts.
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Jeff F - Moderator
Magic and FX
Amazing the Masses
Why dont you try drilling small holes in your doll, and threading some kind of plastic tube up inside them, and to the hole, then blow the blood or whatever down the straws. If you can, or want to, add a few sound effects.
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