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nike_a_go_go   posted 
That&#8217;s right. Blood. There are a million different formulas to suit your budget (taste if your a vampire). So what are you waiting for? Get into the kitchen and find some&#8230;
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<p style="text-align: center">That&#8217;s right. Blood. There are a million different formulas to suit your budget (taste if your a vampire). So what are you waiting for? Get into the kitchen and find some&#8230;</p>
<p>Posted by Sam , in response to Re: need recipe for<br />
fake blood, posted by Jay Windland .</p>
<p>I have the recipe. Its extremely realistic. here it is:</p>
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<li>16 0z. White corn syrup</li>
<li>1 oz. water 1 oz.</li>
<li>red food coloring 1 oz.</li>
<li>washing detergent</li>
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<p>(uh, according to Sam, the detergent is what made it so unique. I have done the Kayro and food coloring type, but the idea of a whitener and fabric softener in my blood kind of ruins the mood for me.)</p>
<p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-style: italic">Posted by Critter on Saturday, in response to blood packets,</span><br style="font-style: italic" /><span style="font-style: italic">posted by Steven </span></p>
<p>Another method that I think would work better for you is plastic wrap. Saran Wrap and all the<br />
others are the same plastic. It can be fused together easily, and will not withstand much pressure<br />
before bursting. This method is kind of like making a Seal-A-Meal package.</p>
<p>To seal the plastic wrap, cut a piece and fold over.Use aluminum foil folded in half. Slip the plastic wrap edges that you need to fuse into the aluminum.</p>
<p>Heat it with a regular clothing iron on high.<br />
Don&#8217;t let the iron touch the plastic directly, just use it to heat the foil.</p>
<p>Let it set for about 10 seconds<br />
after you remove the iron.</p>
<p>The plastic will be fused together. After you have the pouch closed on<br />
three sides, put in the amount of blood you need. You will need to use a small block of wood to seal<br />
the last edge without spilling it. Let the pouch with blood sit on the counter, and put the open side in he foil on top of a wooden block, then heat with the iron. You will have a blood pack made to the<br />
size you want, and it will burst easier than a condom. It will also be pretty flat, and easier to hide<br />
under clothing than a condom with a couple feet of tape on it.</p>
<p>Rex &#8216;Critter&#8217; Winfrey</p>
<p>nike_a_go_go<br />
posted This is what I call generous. A man willing to share his own special kind of mayhem! Maybe we need a new category called Blood Eff-Rex? (Royalty checks can be sent to my address)</p>
<p>Personal communication:</p>
<p>I just finished a blood formula that I think is better than anything that<br />
you can buy. I shipped some with a prop to a company in Chicago so they<br />
could evaluate it. It is safe to eat, WILL stain, flows like blood, and is<br />
slightly brighter than a bag of blood at the blood bank. Below is the<br />
formula, and directions.</p>
<p>16 ounces Sorbitol solution U.S.P.-70%<br />
8 ounces water<br />
8 tablespoons cornstarch<br />
4 1/2 teaspoons red food coloring<br />
2 drops blue food coloring</p>
<p>Mix the water, sorbitol, and cornstarch, then add the colorants. Do all<br />
mixing gently, as you will not be able to get rid of entrapped air very<br />
easy. After mixing, let the &#8216;blood&#8217; sit for at least 30 minutes to see if<br />
it has air in it. If it does have air, it will appear as foam on the<br />
surface. Let it sit for several hours, then refrigerate it over night. The<br />
foam will turn to a gel that can be spooned off. The corn starch will<br />
settle out of the &#8216;blood&#8217;, but only takes a little stirring to put it back<br />
into suspension. You can adjust the color as you need, but remember that<br />
blue food coloring is VERY strong. It will over power the other colors very<br />
fast.</p>
<p>Where to get materials, and brands used to develop this formula:<br />
Food coloring- McCormick, available at any grocery.<br />
Water- I get mine out of the faucet at the sink.<br />
Corn Starch- Argo, also at any grocery.<br />
Sorbitol- Marlex Pharmaceuticals, ordered through local pharmacy. Check<br />
with several before ordering, as their price varies way too much. I have<br />
checked the pharmacy at Winn-Dixie grocery stores, and they want about<br />
12.50 for 16 ounces, and they had it on the shelf. At Albertsons, they had<br />
to order it, but it only takes 1 to 3 days to get it in, and they sell 16<br />
ounces for 3.29. I buy it at Albertsons, the pharmacist knows what I want<br />
when I walk up to the counter.</p>
<p>I hope this info can help out some people that need a good blood, It is a<br />
little expensive, but looks better than the blood I paid over 60 bucks for<br />
a gallon of at the makeup supply.</p>
<p>Rex Winfrey<br />
Critter Creation Shop<br />
Ft. Worth, Texas</p>
<p>gore master<br />
posted 02-28-2000 10:46 PM            I have a recipe of my own that I think should be posted here so I am not repeatedly posting/emailing them.</p>
<p>blood:</p>
<p>1 pint cornsyrup<br />
1 oz. red food coloring<br />
2 1/2 yellow<br />
½ tsp brown cake icing dye<br />
1/2 tsp zinc oxide powder(from pharmacies)<br />
1 oz. water<br />
1 oz. Vodka</p>
<p>put syrup in a container or bowl. Then put the zinc oxide in a small cup. Add a little water and make a paste. Put the water in another cup and the colors. add the zinc to the rest of the syrup and mix well. Then add the colors and water and beat with a spoon. Then add the vodka and beat the mixture together well(it is advisable to put this in a container and shake well, then put into another container). Put in a container(with a lid) and let it sit over night. For drying effect heat the blood. When used the alcohol will evaporate and as it cools it will dry quite a bit like blood.</p>
<p>MORE:<br />
The blood recipe above is good but as I have used it more now, and discovered more I have some minor changes/updates. For most blood effects it is better to use clear dishwashing liquid in place of the vodka. If it&#8217;s a mouth<br />
blood still use the vodka. It&#8217;s suggested to make 2 batches. One thing about the dishwashing liquid is if a tiny bit is swallowed by accident it won&#8217;t harm the person. If it is used in the mouth, or a situation when blood gets into the mouth, tell the person to try not to swallow it. When the take is over give them a cup of water so they can rinse their mouth. The problem with the vodka solution is it can still beed on some surfaces and doesn&#8217;t soak into clothes as well as the dishwash mix.</p>
<p>for pumping blood:<br />
this is for blood that is to be pumped through tubing or when a rapid flowing blood effect is needed. Figure out how much blood you need. Now take a cup, and the blood formula above. Put some blood in the cup, just a little less than the amount needed. Now add a tiny bit of water and stir(if dishwashing mix is used be carefull adding water and stir gently so you don&#8217;t create suds). Add a tiny bit more. Keep checking the consistency to see if it is thin enough. To see how thin you need it, experiment by pumping through tubing. Try first the consistency that you think will work. If it&#8217;s not thin enough, thin it out more. Only add a little water at a time or it may become too thin. Once you get the conistency the first time, it should come naturally.</p>
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I was talking to a friend yesterday about our college years and about the film school I went to way back then. So I thought I write a blog about it on this old filmmaking site.<br />
I ended up telling him that I wish I had someone to shout at me way back then the words “Filmmaking is a Business!”. Of course I got into it by way of being charmed by the European Directors style of filmmaking. And of course, if I remember correctly, this was a required course for the film major back then and I had a great instructor, so naturally, I went on through film school with the delusion that modern filmmaking could be like that. No folks, in my opinion, the age of the auteur is bloody dead and has been for a long time.<br />
The Internet may revive some of it via youtube and stuff like that (but will more likely just water it down with crap, here is a blurry film of my dog) Yes filmmaking is show business.<br />
The art could have lived on in the “show” part, and remained a huge part of the film makers culture, but much of the show has been dissected out of it. Even modern day would be auteurs have a tough time getting their films made if they don’t fit some cookie cutter formula.<br />
So I don’t really miss filmmaking that much. I think all the film schools and universities with a film major should just move their film studies into the business department and be done with the whole façade of pretending that there is any art left in it.  Any studies of the old European directors should be moved to the history departments to be studied along with other lost cultures and kept far far away from the film studies (i.e. it should not even be a requirement.) All the prerequisites should be business things also, like sales, marketing, advertising and such.  Heck there is little need to even learn to shoot and long as you can write checks.<br />
Maybe some of the art form gets to live on in the documentary areas.<br />
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I just watched the   new Resident Evil film (Extinction). It was very bad, apart from Milla   Jovovich being one of the hottest gals in the whole of cinema, but I have had   the hots for her since the Fifth Element days. But I found this great and funny post [...]]]></description>
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<p align="center">I just watched the   new Resident Evil film (Extinction). It was very bad, apart from Milla   Jovovich being one of the hottest gals in the whole of cinema, but I have had   the hots for her since the Fifth Element days. But I found this great and funny post   that one of my users compiled for a faq section back in the day that really   hit the nail on the head so to speak. I thought of the new Resident Evil   flick when I came across these in my archives (especially the bits about guns), so I thought that   I&#8217;d recycle it to share along with the new site goodies (dale)</p>
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<p><em>(From user nike_a_go_go)</em></p>
<p align="center"><span class="good">No movie is ready to be previewed until these are edited in: And Things That You Would Never Know Without The Movies:</span></p>
<p><em> *Various Contributors</em></p>
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<li>If being chased through town, you can usually take cover in a passing St. Patrick&#8217;s Day parade &#8212; at any time of the year.</li>
<li>All beds have special L-shaped cover sheets that reach up to the armpit level on a woman but only to waist level on the man lying beside her.</li>
<li>All grocery shopping bags contain at least one stick of French-Bread.</li>
<li>It&#8217;s easy for anyone to land a plane providing there is someone in the control tower to talk you down.</li>
<li>Once applied, lipstick will never rub off &#8212; even while scuba diving.</li>
<li>The ventilation system of any building is the perfect hiding place. No one will ever think of looking for you in there, and you can travel to any other part of the building that you want without difficulty.</li>
<li>If you need to reload your gun, you will always have more ammunition &#8212; even if you haven&#8217;t been carrying any before now.</li>
<li>Should you wish to pass yourself off as a German officer, it will not be necessary to speak the language. A German accent will do.</li>
<li>If your town is threatened by an imminent natural disaster or killer beast, the mayor&#8217;s first concern will be the tourist trade or his forthcoming art exhibition.</li>
<li>The Eiffel Tower can be seen from any window in Paris.</li>
<li>A man will show no pain while taking the most ferocious beating but will wince when a woman tries to clean his wounds.</li>
<li>If a large pane of glass is visible, someone will be thrown through it before long.</li>
<li>The Chief of Police is always black.</li>
<li>Interbreeding is genetically possible with any creature from elsewhere in the universe.</li>
<li>Kitchens don&#8217;t have light switches &#8212; When entering a kitchen at night, you should open the fridge door and use that light instead.</li>
<li>If staying in a haunted house, women should investigate any strange noises in their most revealing underwear.</li>
<li>Word processors never display a cursor on screen but will always say: Enter Password Now.</li>
<li>Mothers routinely cook eggs, bacon and waffles for their family every morning even though their husband and children never have time to eat it.</li>
<li>Cars that crash will almost always burst into flames.</li>
<li>A single match will be sufficient to light up a room the size of RFK Stadium.</li>
<li>Medieval peasants had perfect teeth.</li>
<li>Although in the 20th century it is possible to fire weapons at an object out of our visual range, people of the 23rd century will have lost this technology.</li>
<li>Any person waking from a nightmare will sit bolt upright and pant.</li>
<li>It is not necessary to say hello or good-bye when beginning or ending phone conversations.</li>
<li>Even when driving down a perfectly straight road it is necessary to turn the steering wheel vigorously from left to right every few moments.</li>
<li>All bombs are fitted with electronic timing devices with large red readouts so you know exactly when they&#8217;re going to go off.</li>
<li>A detective can only solve a case once he has been suspended from duty.</li>
<li>If you decide to start dancing in the street, everyone you bump into will know all the steps.</li>
<li>Most laptop computers are powerful enough to override the communication systems of any invading alien civilization.</li>
<li>It does not matter if you are heavily outnumbered in a fight involving martial arts &#8212; your enemies will wait patiently to attack you one by one by dancing around in a threatening manner until you have knocked out their predecessors.</li>
<li>Calvin says to Hobbes, &#8220;its too bad life couldn&#8217;t be more like the movies&#8221; Then after contemplation, &#8220;But then what would we watch for entertainment?&#8221;</li>
<li>Always cut the Red wire!<br />
The plastic insulation on wire conducts electricity, so you only need to twist the two wires together.</li>
<li>No matter where you are in Australia you will always see kangaroos, everybody drinks beer and eats prawns and has a barbie every night and we all talk in stupid accents.</li>
<li>The Good guys always run out of bullets before the bad guys, but the good guys still win.</li>
<li>Why the hell do computers and other electronic thingys always make beepie noises?</li>
<li>In the course of every murder investigation, you will have to visit at least one strip club.</li>
<li>All hand grenades are incendiary.</li>
<li>One guy shooting at 20 has a better chance of hitting someone than 20 guys shooting at one.</li>
<li>If the bad guy delivers a devastating blow to the good guy, he will wait for him to recover and not take advantage of the situation.</li>
<li>All hookers have a heart of gold.</li>
<li>Stacks of empty boxes always get in the way of a good car chase.</li>
<li>During a foot chase, there is always a chain link fence at the end of an alley.</li>
<li>Homeless people are very wise.</li>
<li>Good guys can operate any kind of heavy equipment.</li>
<li>If you kill someone&#8217;s brother, they will eventually kill you.</li>
<li>Loose cannons on the police force are the best cops in the world.</li>
<li>Terrorist only attack on Christmas.</li>
<li>If a baby carriage is hit during a car chase, there is never a baby in it.</li>
<li>When a gun runs out of ammo you should just throw it away.</li>
<li>An explosion in a building will send debris or people out the window, but never both at the same time.</li>
<li>Anyone who falls off a tall building will twist onto their back before hitting the ground.</li>
<li>No one ever pays attention to the construction working with the stop sign warning you that the road is out.</li>
<li>You will only figure out who the killer is when you&#8217;re in the room alone with him.</li>
<li>There&#8217;s no such thing as a good demon.</li>
<li>Lasers travel at the speed of sound not light.</li>
<li>A cell animated film must have songs.</li>
<li>When someone is about to crash their car, they give up on trying to steer and just cover their face.</li>
<li>In space there always seems to be enough air left to keep the fire burning and allow the sound to travel.</li>
<li>The bad guy always has to preach for as long as it takes the good guy, lying deadly wounded on the ground, to figure out some smart move in exterminating him.</li>
<li>The car never seems to start at first try when you are being chased.</li>
<li>Motorcycles seem to have an unlimited amount of gears.</li>
<li>And finally… A normal house door can always be lock-picked in less than 10 seconds</li>
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<li><em> Original source from this site:</em></li>
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		<title>zombies liquid latex and skin</title>
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Would liquid latex be better to use, and, is it safe to apply liquid latex to the skin? (headcheese)
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Liquid latex sold in make up shops has most of the ammonia removed and is intended to be used on the skin.
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Would liquid latex be better to use, and, is it safe to apply liquid latex to the skin? <em>(headcheese)</em></p>
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<li><em>Liquid latex sold in make up shops has most of the ammonia removed and is intended to be used on the skin.</em></li>
<li><em>Arts &amp; crafts stores carry mold making latex which is cheaper because it may be a lower grade of rubber with more fillers present&#8230;</em></li>
<li><em>Molding latex has a problem – too much ammonia in it.</em></li>
<li><em>It is intended for fast drying, not skin use, so it must be de-ammoniated.</em></li>
<li><em>Pour some latex into a container and stir in about 1/3 the volume of water.</em></li>
<li><em>Let it sit uncovered, the odor is caused by the ammonia evaporating. Every so often add a bit more water until the ammonia smell is nearly gone, then seal it up tightly. It will take longer to dry but not smell so much and be irritating.</em></li>
<li><em>I sometimes do this with the latex sold for make up use as well.</em></li>
<li><em>Latex shrinks as it dries, and the more fibrous material in it, the more it shrinks.</em></li>
<li><em>Tissue paper or paper towel are often used to make wrinkled or peeling skin or to build up structures or wound edges, much like you would work with paper mache.</em></li>
<li><em>Soaking a cotton ball in latex will result in a lump that takes forever and a day to dry, shrinks tremendously, and is harder than a super ball.</em></li>
<li><em>The thicker the latex is, the stronger the end result will be, but the less flexible as well.</em></li>
<li><em>You will have to experiment to find the balance between durability and flexibility that you want.</em></li>
<li><em>Be careful about putting latex on your skin – it grabs onto fibers like cloth and hair and won’t let go!</em></li>
<li><em>You have a lot of fine, hard to see hairs on the face, backs of the hands, and arms.</em></li>
<li><em>Latex does not hurt when peeled off skin, but if hairs become imbedded in it, then it will be worse than tearing off a bandage.</em></li>
<li><em>Think along the lines of a woman waxing her armpits or bikini lines and tearing out the hair – Yee-Ouch!</em></li>
<li><em>Coat the skin lightly with petroleum jelly.</em></li>
<li><em>It will make the latex bead up a bit, but will protect the hair.</em></li>
<li><em>I like to spirit gum a bit of tissue over each eyebrow or coat them with derma wax before applying latex on top.</em></li>
<li><em>If it drips on your clothes and you don’t flood the area immediately with water, you will have an imbedded spot of rubber that will not wash out.</em></li>
<li><em>Liquid latex is fun, inexpensive, handy stuff.</em></li>
<li><em>Even when you move up to more advanced, flexible false skin materials, you&#8217;ll probably still find that you buy liquid latex by the gallon.</em></li>
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(Blood_Man)
I heard you can make a zombie out of latex and tissue but how?
(Critter says):

 Put the latex on a small area, no more than you can work on and finish before the latex dries.
While the latex is wet, put a piece of tissue on the surface.
You want to get the tissue pretty soaked through.
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<p><em>(Blood_Man)</em><br />
<em><strong>I</strong> </em><em><strong>heard you can make a zombie out of latex and tissue but how?</strong></em></p>
<p>(Critter says):</p>
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<li> Put the latex on a small area, no more than you can work on and finish before the latex dries.</li>
<li>While the latex is wet, put a piece of tissue on the surface.<img src="http://www.likeastory.com/wp-content/uploads/zombie_makeup_forweb.jpg" alt="zombie makeup" align="right" /></li>
<li>You want to get the tissue pretty soaked through.</li>
<li>Move it around to create your wrinkles, then let it dry.</li>
<li>You can use a hair dryer to speed it up, but remember when the actor says it is too hot, back off.</li>
<li>You can start on the next area before the first area is dried.</li>
<li>After all the latex is dry, you can add your makeup over it.</li>
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<li>You need to use cake, unless you seal the latex and powder it before using creams.</li>
<li>You can also do a good effect using latex and oat meal.</li>
<li>Corn meal will leave a very rough &#8216;dirty&#8217; texture.</li>
<li>Remember that latex will probably pull out any hair that it touches, so be kind.</li>
<li>Use lots of cleaning agents, and even have the person shave the skin first.<br />
It sounds stupid, but I promise they will feel each hair of peach fuzz that every one has, even women.</li>
<li>Another suggestion is to find a copy of Richard Corson&#8217;s &#8216;Stage Makeup&#8217;.It is the best book for beginners.</li>
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<p><em><strong>How does the oatmeal and latex idea work. Could you explain</strong> </em><em>(Slntbob)</em></p>
<p><em>(Critter Says)</em></p>
<ul>
<li> Use a layer of latex as the adhesive for the oatmeal.</li>
<li>You can use a lot of different things.</li>
<li>The latex is a very good adhesive in this use.</li>
<li>There is an adhesive called Duo Medical adhesive.</li>
<li>It is basically latex.</li>
<li>There are other brands, and they may be an acrylic modified latex.</li>
<li>The latex is a lot cheaper than Duo.</li>
<li>Try several things, oat meal, corn meal, frosted flakes.</li>
<li>They will give different textures.</li>
<li>Play with a few things until you find the look you want.</li>
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